Speaker: Like jibbing and wheeling. Like what is that? I don't know what that means. Interviewer 1: Wait, what was the first one? Speaker: Jibbing. Interviewer 1: What's- I don't even know what that means. Speaker: It's like going on a skidoo ride. Interviewer 2: What? Speaker: It's jib-- yeah, I-don't-know.

Speaker: Um and- and did three semesters there and then actually s-- jobbed out. I had a j-- I had- was offered a job in my field. Interviewer: Mm-hm. Speaker: So I didn't go back to school for my last semester. I thought I'm going to learn more on the job and- Interviewer: Mm. Speaker: Get paid for it than- um-

Interviewer: Then where did you go? Speaker: Well I went to other camps then after I knew how to work, you might say, real hard. And I had no problem at all. I jobbed on my own, I took my own horses and I- I contracted for other jobbers and- for a couple of years, and then I got a chance to go in on my own. And I worked for myself and I had an easy life then.

Um and- and did three semesters there and then actually s-- jobbed out. I had a j-- I had- was offered a job in my field. <7> Mm-hm. <060> So I didn't go back to school for my last semester.

Well I went to other camps then after I knew how to work, you might say, real hard. And I had no problem at all. I jobbed on my own, I took my own horses and I- I contracted for other jobbers and- for a couple of years, and then I got a chance to go in on my own. And I worked for myself and I had an easy life then.

Interviewer: Then where did you go? Speaker: Well I went to other camps then after I knew how to work, you might say, real hard. And I had no problem at all. I jobbed on my own, I took my own horses and I- I contracted for other jobbers and- for a couple of years, and then I got a chance to go in on my own. And I worked for myself and I had an easy life then.

Speaker: That kind of put the kibosh to it in the north. Interviewer: Okay. Speaker: Everywhere up here. It was a fairly strong league. There was ah teams in Haileybury. Cobalt had a team. Liskeard had a team. Ah, don't know if the French school had one.

So anyways, yeah I came in and ah Arthur and I kicked off right off the bat, we- you-know, we got along and ah I had a couple of interviews.

And of course, cleaning out the desks right? Ah kids loved that. Cleaning out your desk, filling up a knapsack full of your stuff that you could take home and it was just- it's exciting. Beginnings are exciting but so are endings.

'Cause that was their favourite target, right? I'm not going to the financial district. And I- I was very careful because I didn't- I didn't ah- I didn't wear a Canadian flag on any- or my knapsack anything-like-that because I didn't want to look obviously out of place, right?

Interviewer: So when he was small he didn't give you any trouble, eh? Speaker: No no he was a very good little fellow, he was really good. Good in school too. Interviewer: Oh wow. Speaker: Good la-- lad yeah.

Speaker: So he might be home this weekend. But he's a nice fellow. Big boy too, six-feet-tall, big- Interviewer: Oh. Speaker: Two-hundred-and-twenty-pounds. Very agile. Nice lads. (inc) Picture's right there. Right there, that picture there.

Yeah, old Miriam-Owal. God, yes. Yeah. You don’t see them anymore. And there was another crippled lad. Jim-Catch, they called him. Ah, Polish. During the hungry thirties. He ah, sold papers and he'd stand on Moore's-Corner there and I still remember as a kid.

Baby-sat my grandchildren. Some of them- one lad he's in the s-- starting, I think he's close to forty years old now. And his sister's in her thirties and then I had Ronny-Patterson, which is got to be in his thirties and is- or close to thirty and Tania-Patterson that's twenty something and so I- I g-- I baby-sat them when they were younger.

Speaker: Well there was one lad in my eh- day and age. He used to come and start the fire. Interviewer 1: Mm-hm. Interviewer 2: Mm-hm. Speaker: And ah, there was always somebody that was available. Now for a few years, I used to do the cleaning at the school...

Like, if one guy basically all he did all summer was cut hay and the other lad basically all he did all summer was draw the hay in the bale. You-know, so it was- but again, I had two g-- great guys to work with me.

Oh not especially ah there was one young lad that asked me to go to the show to him one night and I wasn't very fond of him (laughs). And- but I couldn't be mean to anybody so I said, "Yeah, well sure I'll go," you-know? So, in long (inc) 'course I knew him from b-- way before but I haven't seen him for quite a while.

In his handcuffs up through the field (laughs). And the coach just says, "Get him lads."

Speaker: Handed him back over (laughs). "Get him lads." (Laughs)

No but I come so very close to it coming from ah coming up from ah Martin-River to ah Martin-River at Temagami and the lad had warned me he pulled a lady out of the car at ah the tracks at ah, at Temagami, where they cross the road there. And she wasn't seriously injured but ah the car was a write-off and the moose had went through her windshield.