And ah- and it made out fine and I thought I'd get awfully tired and Jessica said, "Now look it, when you want to go home, I'll take you home. Don't worry about it. We'll just say, okay, excuse ourselves and go" and ah, Carlota's friends left after they said, "Nana's um- a party poop- Nana's a party person" I stayed 'till ten-thirty.

Nothing they did was for nothing. Then you could sort-of, like I say, you can always loosen up a bit. Little bit later on. But ah I'd know- beginnings are a really important time to me. But- but they're not a- they're not a slack time. They're not a loosey-goosey time. They're ah not like the last day (laughs).

Mister-Kenyon kind of stands out to me because I find a lot of the English teachers, a lot of the people- well, a lot of the teachers in the arts these days have this very ah loosey-goosey kind-of left-wing view to teaching the subject...

Well, she was always tougher. She's a hunter- her- she is. So she was always tougher, I-don't-know- or either that or she- she was just making brave so that she- I wouldn't see it but um- yeah, ju-- she was fine with it.

We kind-of like just- like we kind-of separated whatever when um last May two-four weekend so (laughs)- yeah, ah, long story but um- Yeah that- no wait, i-- I graduated grade-twelve. We lived in the same house up until I graduated grade twelve. Then he stayed with my grandparents and I moved in with my dad.

And then of course, we're from the north so I went to their northern forums and then they have these- this big celebration at the end of the year in May on the May two-four weekend called um Les-Jeux. So like, the games. So basically, there are different things you can go into. So there was like s-- ah sports. What's the right- like a workshop, I guess?

We kind-of like just- like we kind-of separated whatever when um last May two-four weekend so (laughs)- yeah, ah, long story but um-

And then of course, we're from the north so I went to their northern forums and then they have these- this big celebration at the end of the year in May on the May-two-four weekend called um Les-Jeux.

I said to Ray "Well if they're drinking why don't we have a drink?" "Why not?" he says. I reached in my pocket pulled out a- (laughing) a mickey. I always car-- I always carried a- a- a- a small glass in me pocket, eh? Pulled out it, corked it, poured him a shot. (laughing) Holy jeez you should have seen the people looking.

And while- I got married at four-o'clock in the afternoon while they were- everybody was hustling around. One of the guys I worked with come up the hill (inc). And he was drinking too and he happened to have a mickey so I had to have a good s-- slug of that. So I g-- like there was no big wedding, we went over to the priest's house and it was all over in about four minutes. Jeez when I think back. Terrible. It's terrible. But we survived.

Anyway, I went to this party out- this is another place out in the country. And there's- it was basically myself, Sean and older kids. And there was like- there's some kids my age but um we ended up going and we had- so we both had a mickey of ah vodka. ... And we're like ah we were going to be here night 'cause we were planning on staying the night-

I knew I had to drive to Sudbury with my other friend and his mom. But I didn't really- yeah I didn't really pay much attention so I ended up getting- going there, we're like "Okay we're- we have to chug this." So we each chugged a mickey. ... So I was five-five, probably a hundred and- if a hundred and thirty pounds, I was probably like- I was very small, right? ... And um so chugged that. We were fine, like it was okay, let's go.

... when I first came back especially to all like the sort-of new friends like "Yeah you were- yeah you were loud. You were cocky." I'm like "I wasn't that bad!" Like he- but I think he- he makes more of it like just to- to take the- the Mickey out of me a bit but- ... Um but anyway so, by the time grade-ten rolled around, I sort-of had- I was a bit sort-of like loud and- ...

It was a choice to come back to the farm, not that just it was ah expected of you. You-know because lots of people get- get mired in a family business like that and you feel that you have to follow along on the family footsteps and- but this was a choice that everybody had, so that's good.

Speaker: ... when they- when they closed that, a lot of people had the option of moving away. So even if they didn't want to move away, they kind of had to. ... We used to have a bigger a- much bigger M-N-R here than w-- than we do now so we lost a lot of jobs there.

Somewhere way up north, they named this lake after him. ... But he was- he was very dedicated t-- and he worked very hard with the M-N-R in Timmins and he'd help with restocking lakes and- and-things-like-that.

... it's in the middle of the day and everybody stops in the highway and there's this moose and scared it. It turned around and- ... Went back to across the lake to ah- to Quebec. He didn't go to ah Dawson-Point. ... And ah M-N-R got involved and alerted them on the other side and ah, the moose expired. He got up on shore and collapsed. I-mean, that's a- a ten mile swim. And he just had a heart attack.

And- and that's- and it's an issue with bears up here. There- there was another ah couple that- the bear-watch people don't come. M-N-R won't come unless there's four or five problem bears.

Interviewer: How do you even make a toga? Just take out a blanket? Speaker: Yeah, you just take a- yeah, like a white sheet and just put it around you. That's what makes it fun. ... Yeah, well, see a girl (inc), "Oh shit, my bad, I'm sorry I stepped on your toga." Interviewer: (laughs) What was it like going to Sudbury?

My grandfather cam-- hav-- came to Muskoka and he was a carpenter but he- they did like to farm too, so they- he's- in nineteen-hundred, he sent his son, who would- became my grandfather up to scout out the place and find a farm, and then they came up in nineteen-one. I have to tell you, when they came on the Meteor nineteen-one, there was my great-grandfather, my great-grandmother, my grandmother, who was I-don't-know, twelve.