Interviewer: You guys just pick all day? Speaker: Pretty well, yeah.

Speaker: Last school there was ah, one two three, four- there was eight- eight classrooms in our school. ... Interviewer: One for each grade? Speaker: Pretty well, yeah. But ah, it was- it was pretty good. Enjoyed it.

They wouldn't let nobody in the ah- in the army-cadets but that's where he wants to be. ... That's what they- they- they try to teach you the- your pretty well on your own- ... And what you got, you have to survive.

Plus I know a few guys in Haileybury ah, (inc)- he ah- he went into the army. He was there pretty well same time I was.

Interviewer: Did you know right away? Speaker: Pretty well.

They've done it. Yeah, they've done- everybody- put their nose through the grindstone and they've completed that.

And most of them people, they get grants, they've noticed and I'm being honest a year later they're not around, once they spend the money and they don't want to put their nose through the grindstone and- so at times I don't think it helps the p-- help people that way.

Well, we had this red-war-pig. That's a male pig, eh? It was kind of cranky.

And ah, you-know that's what got me more interested in the history of this town and ah, I c-- I continue to do it on my own. ... But it's guys like Dustin-Macmurray, like Dustin used to be reeve of Coleman-Township for years- ... For twenty years.

The new mayor ah, the new reeve mayor of Coleman, Dan-Cleroux, he came to the table this morning just for a brief time.

Interviewer: So you really worked yourself up a long way, didn't you? Speaker: Yeah. I was reeve for twenty-eight years in (inc). Interviewer: You were what? Speaker: Reeve. Interviewer: Reeve.

Interviewer: So how did you get from being a alcoholic at thirteen to where you were running- you were the superintendent of the- the foundry and reeve and- Speaker: Well drinking- never bother ah interfered with my job.

Speaker: He was a- like he- he liked government and ah h-- he had served o-- in municipal roles in- in the township. You-know, as a reeve and as a councillor um on the school board and-all-those-things.

Interviewer: Well what did you do? Speaker: Well I was rough-neck on the rigs, meaning one of the lowest labourers on the rig. Interviewer: Mm-hm. Speaker: It was our job to make sure you had to- to hook up the drill stem or to disconnect it if you're pulling out of the hole and-

Interviewer: What would you even have to do- I don't even know how it works when you work on an oil rig. Speaker: Well, you got to set up the rig, number one. And then you drill your casing down into the ground and then inside that, you have your drill stem and then you start drilling.

Interviewer: Where did you- oh, I asked you worked on an oil rig. Speaker: I worked on different oil rigs and drilling and service. Interviewer: What was that like? Speaker: It was good work. Hard work. But you got money, you-know?

Speaker: In Liskeard and then I went one semester here and that was it. Interviewer: Mm. Speaker: Yeah. Interviewer: Just wasn't a big fan of school? Speaker: No, no not- and I mean at seventeen I was out in Alberta, working on the oil rigs so- Interviewer: Oh really? Speaker: You-know, I didn't figure I needed anymore education at that time.

Yeah, I was at a rink rat, I used to be-

We had bikes, we would take them, and ended grinding my- getting road rash on my face. I think it's this side of my face that I got road rash on. ... Interviewer: How did that happen? Speaker: Oh um, the cracks are so big in the road, it'

Speaker: I um- I fell about six times off of them. Interviewer: Six times? Speaker: Yeah, I- I have little dents in the ground to prove it. Um, yeah, within about the space of a week, a week- week and a half ah. Road rash on my face, um, like I gotten shocked by electricity a bunch of times (laughs).