Okay. So anyway, the- the- we used to go in there and they used to- we used to go down the laneway behind Shopsie's and they would have racks of salamis and wieners

...and there was, um- the laneway and it would separate Danforth from like Strathamour so if we had to go to the-Danforth we would just go through the laneway instead of going like all the way around the block because then...

Yes. Well I was having a bath on the front veranda in a big wash-tub, that 's the only time we had company, and it was a tractor or truck or something going down the laneway going to the back forty or something. (laughs) And I yelled at Ron and he ran out with a- with a towel for me, but they didn 't come up to the house.

I went to that group home for two years up this laneway to this institution place and one day I was going up there and um- one day I was going up there and a woman was with Philip, and she had a power about her.

Yeah yeah it was more fun right? And then ah I used to go with my um my um (snaps) my uncle ah when we were at five-forty-three Klendenen-Avenue. My grandparents' place. And he used to go and shoot pigeons in the laneway. My- my grandmother used to make soup out of them.

Um, pretty safe, but my parents still didn't like me to play on the street or-anything-like-that. Um, we had like a back laneway that we used to use instead for like bike-riding and-that-kind-of-thing. Um, I-don't-know, like there was sort-of like a central grocery-store and like I said, the school is two minutes away so that really kind of dictated what the community was like.

Yes, um, see well we didn 't have the Internet, and there 's less (inc) and we had less time to get into trouble. I mean even if you were a latched kid, you-know, a latchkey kid, which is- meant your mother worked and you had a key, you came home, you had your chores, you did- first you did your homework and there goes an hour.

Ericksson of Sweden took it over in nineteen-ninety and it became Ericksson-G-E-communications-Canada and within two or three years it became fully Ericksson owned and ah- and I 've worked right through with Ericksson up until March-thirty-first of two-thousand-and-four and the latter years from nineteen-eighty until nineteen-ninety I worked as ah a combination support guy.

Yeah, you knew people because- and uh the law profession was relatively small then, you knew most of the lawyers in your field, and you know who you could trust, who you couldn 't trust and so on, but uh, latterly, you-know there got to be so many lawyers in Toronto, you didn 't know who was who, and uh, when they brought computers in, well one of my daughters, becau-- I left the firm I was with and set up a partnership with uh, my elder daughter, and uh, when computers came in I decided that was when I would pack it up and she didn 't want me to retire, but I said "No that 's- I 've had enough." I just did consulting for a few years but I 'm out of it now completely.

Interviewer: Yeah. What do their spouses do? Speaker: Um, my son-in-law, he works at um, the legion at 1-0-1-legion. Interviewer: Oh yeah. Speaker: And um, my daughter-in-law, she works for- is it Guinness's? Interviewer: The beer?

Interviewer: No it's looks like a suburb now. Speaker: As a kid I- I remember that it was um as I said quite charming and kind of little bit of the old world. There was a lovely stone house um building where the legion now stands and the knocked that down unbeknownst to anyone. Interviewer: (inc)? Speaker: No they had the- the new legion building had been constructed and the old stone house was still standing but now it 's a parking lot. And somehow, I wasn 't living here then, but I think they just demolished it before there were any controls on that.

All depends on, you-know, ah how much business they had. But they'd have four or five delivery-boys and you would deliver fish-and-chips and stuff- like-that. But you got a lot of the war-stories from ah around the Legion. If you were near the restaurant, near the Legion. And then they all came out and you 'd hear war- stories and, you-know, how they made it possible for us to live free and all-that-stuff.

You're not supposed to have any sort-of kind-of gambling so they have all of their servers, which is their applications, ou-- outside or off-shore of Canada so in-other-words it becomes legit (inc.) there's always a loophole for everything. And they're making a huge amount of money with all these online-

Speaker: And then once we sort of like, well we had a few fights, obviously and then, things were official and then when he like started to meet everybody, then it was like, okay this guy's is legit. ... And then, now it's like, okay. Like I was actually, on the way here, we were in the car and then I was like "You know what, I'm really happy I ended up with you." And I said, "I really could have settled with way less."

He didn't have his logs, so he came back and he sold off two farms, he kept the middle one, sold off two farms to pay his men. So uh, that was the story of the- of the clearing the land in the those days, he built a- a uh log house, which is still sitting there, I was in it about two, three years ago.

And so that 's another huge effect of market-value assessment. Like someone else might say, "Well, it 's great. 'Cause look it, your house is worth so much money." But it 's like, "I 've lived here all my life and I would have loved to have retired here. But that 's not gonna be in the picture if I want to travel or just have some extra cash."

So I always put a picture of him right up there so I- I say "Look it I married a hunk, you ladies can all be jealous." No way I tell- I tell them so much I think they think I 'm lying. I tell them everything, everything. Well you-know-what-I-mean.

Yeah. There was ducks in there. And all these kids were pulling pranks. You-know, they 'd throw a Oh-Henry-bar in the water and say, "Oh, look it! Somebody crapped in the water!" Right?

where people now are saying, "This has to be picture perfect when you get to that stage." So we did, in education and I would say it 's education's fault, we swung a little bit to too much to being loosey-goosey to now we 're coming back and saying, "No, there are proper ways of- of doing things."

Interviewer: Oh yeah. When they put the casinos in. Like, there used to be some nice res-- restaurants on the- that main drag there, you know where the- that Haunted place is or what the- Interviewer: Yeah, there was a lovely restaurant there but I think it 's gone now.