Well then, in the meantime, of-course, the hydro and the water works was formed. That was going to be a big thing you-know.

Well, I was working with the company and they closed the gas house down and the gas business got so bad and the electric got in there and then, and the hydro, we didn't call it hydro. Well, I didn't know what I was going to do because I didn't know anything about electricity, so I worked for the parks board as I said before, for a while and done other jobs for the city, ...

I ah- one night the um, well, I- we call the hydro, um, um but it went out, there was a storm, and it was in November, and I was in my little chunk of this little weaver's-cottage they were all row houses, little tiny cottages, but they were all joined. And I was in my little cottage, and the lights went out, and ah I was thinking, "Hm..."

So ah then on one Wednesday morning ah I got a- I got a- two calls in a row, one from- from the hydro ah who was ah was looking for a draftsman and ah I knew what the hydro did because I w-- at my work-time out of high-school I went down to- to the ah hydro office and worked there for a week. Used to go out on a w-- week basis.

I thought it'd be more interesting and-so-on because I knew what the hydro did. I'm not saying that it wasn't good job but anyway I took the test, I passed it and I got the job at Northern.

The customs he asked me, what's in your trunk," and I told him, he never even opened it. It was only certain ones he opened, yeah, certain ones, he must have thought I was honest. I says, "boots and pants and shirts." He didn't bother. then we got on the train you-know, it was one of them colonist cars we got on, colonist you-know.

... delivered twice a week by the ice man and if you forgot to empty the pan of water underneath the refrigerator you ended up with a mild flood in the kitchen. The ice had been cut from Crow Lake in the winter and enough packed away in sawdust in the company ice house to last all summer. One resident who lived near an abandoned gold mine across the river had no ice problems though. They used to store their food on shelves built part way down the mine shaft, it was nice and cool down there.

So when I was little, those- when the harbour was not available, that's where we played hockey. We would carry our hockey-sticks down, and our skates, and we'd shinny the fence to get over by the oil-tank, and in there was the most perfect ice-pads you ever saw in your life. All you had to do was shovel them off. And we'd go in there and we'd play hockey in there.

Oh it was a scary show you-know. There were lots of good shows in Belleville, especially the Belle you-see. And Frankenstein, holy jeepers. There was two horror shows one night you-know and I got home late that night and when I got out in the morning the cows were back in the apple orchard.

Well I went on and got my first class certificate. A lot of them at that time are just getting your second class. And I went ah another two years. It was then ah and got my first class and I took the matric as well as the teacher's. And so ah I- I took everything they asks me to take because I thought someday I might want this and I might want that and I didn't know just what I was going to do altogether and so I took ah junior and senior matric and junior and senior teacher's- normal so-

I attended Queen-Victoria-School. And I- and I to-- and then ah Queen-Victoria-High-School was above Queen-Victoria's- ah Public-School, at that time, and then I went to Queen-Victoria-High-School and then I went ah- I got my ah- ah matric and ah- and seni-- ah junior and senior matric and-so-on there and then ah I went to faculty in Toronto and came back and started to Queen-Victoria-School to teach.

...you-know where Doctor-Dolman is, right, that yellow house kitty-cornered across, his office?

No I'm- that was the old post office I-mean they did it up different but ah across from the Quinny-Hotel right, you-know kitty-corner. And ah the Quinny-Hotel was a- a good hotel in yeah in those days too, I-mean all the people who ah gosh what's- what was the doctor's name his daughter was married there, and I was going to high-school and coming down from the hill when they were having their picture taken.

It was shawed with rubber pads and I got some- no I didn't even have saddle bags, did I? No, I had a just a knapsack and ah I went down to Kingston and crossed over. Well, all the way down um you-see that was the early days of radio so they couldn't do too much except to say I was lost so for one night my sister was beside herself.

Never done anything else, raised on a farm you-know? Loud a little. When I was a young lad, I never- I never fathered a farm.

Oh, I can remember going as a young lad, going to (inc) in the nineteen-twenties, but back in nineteen-eight, nine, ten going to a show for a cent, and only a cent.

Another interesting little incident that comes back to me, while the English boys were up at um the- at the airport training, this lad came in one day, a nice little Englishman, neat as a pin and ah he said, "Have you any books by Rupert-Brooks?" I said, "Yes, I think so."

He didn't want the book. And there was another lad with him that I knew that I didn't care for so I ah I thought, "Well, I'll ah just call the police." So I called them and I said I didn't like the actions of these youngsters and I knew they were hiding in a stairway right next to me.

One funny incident, I was selling or trying to sell a Bible to a young man, a good lad you-know but not too bright, and ah I got out- as well as the King-James-version I got him the new revised standard which was just fairly new at that time and oh, he was horrified.

One- one is ah working in Montreal doing script for um T-V and ah ra-- radio and that sort-of-thing, very clever lad, and ah one girl i-- has been for many years, secretary to the Governor-General and lives on the ah- at the gatehouse of the Governor-General's residence in Ottawa. Very fine.