Were- were- were in trouble, so, I wasn't- I- I was- I was worried and I couldn't figure out which one it would be that would sauce the teacher back, or be bold or (laughs).

Speaker: It was like ah- people were soaping windows and breaking windows of the guys who were working- Interviewer: Really? Speaker: Because they were what call scabs. Interviewer: Scabs. Speaker: Yeah tha-- that's what they called the guy who went to work when they were on strike. It was even worse in Kirkland-Lake of course.

Speaker: See, when I first started mining, to become a first-class miner, you had to- you had to learn everything about mining. Interviewer: Mm-hm. Speaker: And ah, today to be classified as miner, you can be- a scoop-tram operator, which is a mucker, you can be a driller, you can be a blaster, you can be a loader, uh, to load the roads, a pipe-fitter, ah, you can be all these things, but to me you're not- you're not a- a first-class miner ...

Speaker: And then when they did find them, like I said they were- one was underneath one of the ah, the scoop-trams. Basically had- looked like he had ducked under to get ah- but with- you-know you got how many hundreds of t-- thousands of tons that are dropping down. Interviewer: Yeah. Speaker: So you're under a scoop-tram, no matter how big you-know it's going to come- a-- you-know and one guy was squished there and the other guy- yeah, it wasn't- wasn't good. But so they lost the two lives on that thing there.

Or-this-sort-of-thing, or there might be a little scuffle in- in- over hockey or ball or-something.

So the referee comes in kicks my player out right? 'Cause I- I don't think there was a scuffle kicks her out, gives her a penalty for leaving the penalty-box too soon ah and roughing.

But if it's just some scuffle you-know ah call it two, and sit them out for two, four minutes, whatever.

you're coming from Central and then you're a- you're- you're at Queen-Elizabeth, so there was probably a few ah, school ground scuffles and-that.

Speaker: My son brought- bought me that for Christmas couple years ago. It's a- Mourn-The-Line-Of-An-Expose-Of-American-Imperialism. Interviewer: Oh. Speaker: Teddy-Roosevelt and ah his shenanigans. And I'm really into the part now where the Americans took over the Philippines and that the underhanded dealings that they- they had you-know. It's- it really comes down pretty hard on- on the Americans and their foreign policy.

And he come in- come in the other class and put on some kind of sh-- shenanigans. One of- this particular day he was proposing to the teacher in the class and all the different- (inc) Italian, and a Frenchman, Chinaman, and-all-the-rest. And he could do all through the antics this. A real- real actor (laughs).

Speaker: ... so the Irish and that's in my father's side there is ah Scottish and French. Interviewer 1: Huh. Interviewer 2: Cool. Speaker: Yeah. Interviewer 1: And horse thieves. Speaker: Yes we were horse thieves. So that's maybe where my shenanigan- action-for-shenanigans comes from.

Speaker: I- I love Monty-Python. Interviewer 1: Yes. Interviewer 2: Oh yeah. Speaker: I love his shenan-- like the shenanigans from Monty-Python. And um and Mike-Myers and-that-kind-of-thing like it's amazing. But again comedy, being able to laugh is a great- great healing tool for everyone so-

Interviewer: Did there- no fighting at all? Speaker: There was- oh there was definitely some shenanigans ah- Interviewer: (Laughs) Speaker: I remember one time we had one of those um records, the forty-fives. It was the original Star-Wars one where you could read along with the Star-Wars books. Interviewer: Oh. Speaker: If we had it now it would be worth money.

Speaker: Well you-know not- not real hockey. What they call shimmy hockey, eh? Interviewer: Oh what's- what's shimmy hockey? Speaker: Well, you don't have many rules (laughs). Interviewer: Oh oh. Speaker: You're just interested in getting the puck in the- in the net.

And it became more- it wasn't just outside playing, what we called shinny

And it became more- it wasn't just outside playing, what we called shinny. Shinny. Interviewer: Can you sort of define that, shinny? Speaker: Well shinny was- you didn't- you-know you just went out and played. You didn't have any referees, you didn't have any coaches, you just went out and played. And that's what you call shinny.

Speaker: And in the winter it was hockey on the rink. Interviewer: What did you call hockey in the rink? Speaker: Shinny. Yeah. And our great-grandmother was in between our house and the rink, and so when you got cold you just skated over to grandma's and she'd have hot chocolate on-the-go.

Speaker: And we- we- we were- we partied there (inc) many times. Interviewer: What did you do? Speaker: Oh they had awesome parties. And they had what they called dining ins and you wore a long gown and long white gloves and the whole shmeer. Oh yeah, and they were in their beautiful dress, uniforms and-stuff.

Speaker: The most dangerous thing I've ever done in a mine. Taking down loose ground in front of us. Like when you drill and blast around, bush could be sixteen-feet wide. Ah, twelve to fourteen-feet high. And then you go and muck it out. Then there's loose ground above you. Interviewer: Oh my gosh. Speaker: And you have to get that down. Interviewer: How? Speaker: Well you muck it and then you rock bolt it. Y-- you muck and you rock bolt. And you screen. And you can even shot creek, where you spray cement up into the screening. There's all kinds of ways of doing it now. But anyway it's ah- and you can timber it.

We got to re-colour them, repaint them, put the signs back up. It'll put the signies back up. Take a look at those signs. You got to admit, this town and those signs with there- all those- when you see those pictures, see Garries-Bo-- Billiards, when you see Silver-Grill, The-Strand-Theatre and the Metropolitan and you see the wine store at the top.