Big families, and-so-forth, yeah. But, ah- they, um, so they- he was a twin. And, ah- and then in latter years, after- at the age of fifteen, around- around the age of fifteen, at- at home I guess his mother showed them how to cook and-so-forth, and everything, and he was interested in cooking, eh?

We had one of them down here on the corner of George and Queen run by a man named D.W. for years and latterly that was run by W.B.H. who was a son of J.J.H. who had the shoe chain, you maybe have heard of him some time.

And cooked with wood, ah, in a cook stove, ah, first, ah, just, ah, a thinly cooked stove latterly, ah, it was, um, our- w-- the type that we called a range which had a warming closet up above and a reservoir at the back of the stove where you could heat water.

And feather pillows and ah, sheets, I- I think that our- our linens were unbleached linen that mother made up and then bleached out on the grass until they were snow white. Ah, latterly, ah, like after, we sort of graduated from, ah, the straw ticks to what we called corn husk ticks.

Yeah, you knew people because- and uh the law profession was relatively small then, you knew most of the lawyers in your field, and you know who you could trust, who you couldn 't trust and so on, but uh, latterly, you-know there got to be so many lawyers in Toronto, you didn 't know who was who, and uh, when they brought computers in, well one of my daughters, becau-- I left the firm I was with and set up a partnership with uh, my elder daughter, and uh, when computers came in I decided that was when I would pack it up and she didn 't want me to retire, but I said "No that 's- I 've had enough." I just did consulting for a few years but I 'm out of it now completely.

And then latterly, ah, they, ah- they came back to Poland, eh? And so that particular area was more a- a bit of Polish a-- and German, and so, ah, that area was called Kashubi-- Kashubia, or- or Kartuzy, as it's called sometimes there. I visited there K-- in, ah, two-thousand-and-eight.

So, we'd just walk around all day, go through all the residential areas where there's no tourists. We'd just sit and have picnics and like, you-know, really cool things. Um, so I can't really say we did much because all we did was just walk and laugh our asses off. We'd go back to our hostel around like eight or nine at night, um in Florence we went out on a pub-crawl which was really fun, but basically like, we go back, talk about the day, look at some pictures and be like "all-right, goodnight. ""

... so I burst out laughing and- and I'm like "okay, maybe that'll stop him, maybe it'll make it really awkward" but like, this guy was not stopping so I'm like, laughing my ass off, I don't know what to do and I'm waiting for my friend to start laughing, I'm like "she has to have seen it by now," right? Not a word, I'm like, "that bitch fell asleep!"

... like this Spanish security guard and like, we're trying to explain to him what happened without being like rude, and we're like "We need another room, we cannot stay in our room." And um, everybody came up to help us out, obviously, 'cause we were standing in our underwear laughing our asses off, so, that's ah- yeah that was my humorous story.

And I'm like watching him and I'm like- at the time I'm drunk and also a bit baked so I'm like laughing my ass off.

I get up and I go talk to Matt. I'm like "Matt, what the fuck was that about? I was watching you, I was laughing my ass off." He's like "Yeah, I was putting that show on just for you."

Like ridiculously good price and- it's 'cause there it's not import, it's domestic, it's the U-K. Their import is Budweiser, which made me laugh my ass off 'cause I mean, you think import, you think good.

Interviewer: Would it- could you tell us about church picnics and- Speaker: Oh my yes, they used to have church picnics and church lawn socials and all sorts of entertainment like that. We used to have a lot of fun. Interviewer: Can you tell us about a lawn social? That's a new- Speaker: Well, they have ah set up the tables outside and- and it was just an ordinary social only it was all outside. Oh, they'd have some little games to entertain the people. I forget what all they did have then.

You see when- ah we'd start in the spring every year and there'd be lawn socials. Maybe oh ah strawberry socials. And they'd serve you strawberries. And they'd have a ball-game. And then after that, there'd come- well it'd be just a lawn social or the ice-cream social. ... And then there'd be the church picnic.

Speaker: Oh it was interesting. Interviewer: How much trouble did you get into? Speaker: I think that- not from the school, but I- I think my bike was laid up for just night-time and weekends only.

Well I come swimming as often as I can. Four or five times a week. Um, I've just had two hip operations in the past year. So that sort of laid me up. I worked at a garden center every spring.

Speaker: He got sick. Interviewer: Oh okay. Speaker: And he was laid up for a quite a while and so we had to buy the house, borrow money to buy the house. We bought it for three hundred dollars...

Arthritis and she's ended up- she's been laid up for two-and-a-half-years from the hospital to the nursing home.

The nuns were the primary teachers there, they were, oh I'd say six maybe lay teachers.

Anyway yeah it was interesting. and then I had some lay teachers too and yeah I had a nun since and ah lay people. No men though. Did not have a man teacher until grade-nine or ten, yeah, yeah. All female.