Yeah mo-- most of us again up here we relied on wood stove and ah so I don't- there was- there wasn't too many people in this neck of the woods, I don't think that were really desperate um, you-know we were lucky that we could go to Almonte and get gas or- or-whatever but if- if you-know if it was a like a huge, you-know you had to go a hundred miles to get gas.

My uncle had a- a sugar camp over here like in- in- still in my property but just kind of over in that neck of the woods.

Um, um you-know some of them like Middleville's is a full size pumper but up- in our neck of the woods up there sometimes getting into some of the areas, the smaller truck is a little bit better, it's four-wheel drive.

Well, the threshing mill, it took about ah, fifteen, twelve-fifteen, we usually had quite a few men, sometimes seventeen or eighteen, because Dad neighboured with quite a few other farmers around, and he didn't want to be scarce of help.

Not that- not that we realized, li-- um, part of the neighbourhood was, I think, from probably Northern Ireland, a part from Southern Ireland because some were Catholics, some were Protestants, but there was- we got along very well, everyone neighboured and there was no distinction between Catholics or Protestants or-whatever, it was-

Interviewer: They didn't have a garden on their own. Speaker: No, they never had, no.

Speaker: And then cars come on the road. Interviewer: Oh yeah. Speaker: We wanted to- we never had no light on buggies.

Speaker: In silos. Yeah. Interviewer: Yes, did you have one of those on your farm? Speaker: N-- no, we never had- no. No.

Parents never had no worries about us. Only had one cousin get lost once. They found him the next day though. Yeah. 'Cause (laughs) in the village there was fifteen homes. Seven of them were related. All uncles and aunts.

Speaker 2: And the house was cold, you-know from that (laughs)- Speaker: (inc) you never had no heat on, well back in them days. You come in here and the bed was just like ice, eh?

The old vet never had no car. Never ever drove, all he had was horses. Dad had the car and he'd drive that old vet all over. Here to Minden, Wilberforce, wherever eh? Then he- old lad got killed then dad did it all.

Oh yeah. You went to the barn and fed them by hand and you- you milked them by hand. We never had no milking machine, two hands.

De-- Dean- Dean and I are- we should've bought all that problem year- never had no money to-- couldn't do it. Anyway. Dean was up there.

Speaker: And then Irish people were- belonged to the other church, eh? Interviewer: Yeah. (laughs) Speaker: And this was the Polish. Interviewer: Yeah. Speaker: We never had no English there at all. Now it's all English.

... anybody wanted something drawed, for a little extra money, you done it. It didn't matter about what time it was when you got home. You're not- you-see, driving a truck w-- with me, it was never no effort. You-know, some people, you-know, it was tired and things like that. You-know, when you're driving a truck sitting down there all day, and when you come through here and get your supper at night, you're just want to go lay on the couch.

... young people from miles around would come and they could- well they could skate there and they- the lads come up Saturday afternoon and clean it all off and they'd skate all weekend. There was never no money involved, you-know, just ah- that was the nice part of it the- ... parents knew where they were and you-know.

then the darn bear started to- bothering the- the calves when they've been- new dropped calves, you-know that- that they would carry them away.

Speaker 2: I 'd have to peddle way up into Toronto to deliver one package of cigarettes. Yeah. I think they were twenty-five-cents. Speaker 1: Oh, I thought they had nickel packages. Speaker 2: No, I 'm not sure. I can 't remember, but they weren 't very expensive. But I had- yeah, I had to go all the way up- Interviewer: A pain. Speaker 2: But yeah, it was- it was interesting.

Braid it, and put it back up onto her head, and give herself her night-'do, as we would call it.

Interviewer: When, ah, were you born? Speaker: Nineteen-one. Interviewer: Mm-hm. And you ah told me I think that you had a brother. Speaker: Yes. Interviewer: Older or younger? Speaker: Younger, three years younger than I was. Interviewer: Born in nineteen-four. Speaker: Four, yes.