Speaker: Well you-know not- not real hockey. What they call shimmy hockey, eh? Interviewer: Oh what's- what's shimmy hockey? Speaker: Well, you don't have many rules (laughs). Interviewer: Oh oh. Speaker: You're just interested in getting the puck in the- in the net.

They look so small, I mean our- our house was twelve feet wide and the other way was five feet or four feet, 'cause I know I could shinny up, to the upstairs bedroom window and get in the bedroom window if my Mom wasn 't home, because I knew that bedroom window was open.

But ah between the oil-tanks, and my mum- and where- where I grew up, there was one particular ah spot there that was always full of coal. And I can remember that pile of coal. And we had to shinny a big fence if we wanted to go over there, and we used to do it...

I think these were kinda just kinda off to the- but anyway we used to do that, we used to do that, we used to shinny that fence and ah go over there and shovel off a nice pad and play hockey. We'd do that all the time. It was either there or down at the harbour.

So when I was little, those- when the harbour was not available, that's where we played hockey. We would carry our hockey-sticks down, and our skates, and we'd shinny the fence to get over by the oil-tank, and in there was the most perfect ice-pads you ever saw in your life.

Speaker: He- he was just in a league where it was just like a shinny kind-of-thing, so they weren't- Interviewer: Okay I wasn't sure how it would work with little- little kids. Speaker: Yeah probably- I'm not even sure next year but um, no he- they just played around together and- but we went to all their practices and you-know, so it was great.

...they would ruin the- ruin the jump so- but ah- and then in the winter we ah we ah played a lot o' hockeys ah ah used to play a lot o' shinny and ah the boys play of-course on the road now...

And it became more- it wasn't just outside playing, what we called shinny

And it became more- it wasn't just outside playing, what we called shinny. Shinny. Interviewer: Can you sort of define that, shinny? Speaker: Well shinny was- you didn't- you-know you just went out and played. You didn't have any referees, you didn't have any coaches, you just went out and played. And that's what you call shinny.

Speaker: And in the winter it was hockey on the rink. Interviewer: What did you call hockey in the rink? Speaker: Shinny. Yeah. And our great-grandmother was in between our house and the rink, and so when you got cold you just skated over to grandma's and she'd have hot chocolate on-the-go.

Yeah and ah I have a picture there showing people with the shovels cleaning off a rink so we could skate. And then ah when the- we get out and play shinny when there was ah- ah there's still ice on the lake and if you didn't catch the puck, you might have to go- might have to wait ten minutes for somebody to go and get the puck

Oh yeah yeah. Yeah we played hockey. Played shinny on the lake.

Yeah so you got good legs in skating so I played hockey quite a bit. So ah I- I could skate a lot better than some of the rest because I played shinny so much.

So you just image there's like hundreds and hundreds of farmers all lined up with their farm equipment like with shit-spreaders and-whatnot...

Interviewer: Mm-hm Are there any like special holidays or anything-like that for your family? Speaker: Christmas-Eve my mum always has a big open-house and she puts on a whole shmeer. Interviewer: What 's that like? Speaker: They just invite like immediate family over. Other people come like I 've had friends come before and they just put out like a buffet and people go again and sit down and eat and talk and open presents- nice.

Speaker: And we- we- we were- we partied there (inc) many times. Interviewer: What did you do? Speaker: Oh they had awesome parties. And they had what they called dining ins and you wore a long gown and long white gloves and the whole shmeer. Oh yeah, and they were in their beautiful dress, uniforms and-stuff.

Speaker: The most dangerous thing I've ever done in a mine. Taking down loose ground in front of us. Like when you drill and blast around, bush could be sixteen-feet wide. Ah, twelve to fourteen-feet high. And then you go and muck it out. Then there's loose ground above you. Interviewer: Oh my gosh. Speaker: And you have to get that down. Interviewer: How? Speaker: Well you muck it and then you rock bolt it. Y-- you muck and you rock bolt. And you screen. And you can even shot creek, where you spray cement up into the screening. There's all kinds of ways of doing it now. But anyway it's ah- and you can timber it.

And they were astounded that out of these twenty question, I got nineteen of them right, and I totally chalk it up to the fact that, Adrian comes home and we talk you-know, it 's just- we don 't shoot the shit, for lack of a better word, we talk and you-know it 's just- we don 't sit here eating dinner watching the news, you-know we sit at the table, and we talk, you-know I feel it 's very important to eat meals with families...

Some of them are cool. They 'll let you pick their brains and shoot the shit with you. Most of them are like- if you don 't position the lights right. You put it- the wrong gel on the light they 'll be like "This is a fucking quarter-density light I expect- I except to have fucking density light. I can 't work under these conditions!" They 'll throw their shit down on the ground and have a little hissy-fit.

Oh we probably just gather at- one of our- one of my aunts' house usually one of my aunts on my street and yeah we just exchange gifts, have a big sit-down dinner, or lunch whatever you wanna call it and that 's pretty much it just shoot the shit and- and eat as much as you can. Yeah it 's good times though, good times.