Speaker: Hay fork ah, ah, come down from the roof of the barn on- then put- now was it slings they had mostly?Yeah, the slings they had on the wagon I-guess before you put the hay on wasn't it? Interviewer: Yeah. Speaker: And then the hay went on top of that and then they hooked ah, slings to the hay for- or-- the hay- so I just had to watch.

Well he was going up that hill, it was slippy.

But then- in summertime it was okay, but in winter time when it was snowing. Slippy, eh?

Oh yes. No saddle, it was slippy. The back gets slippy.

I was very strong. Very- extremely healthy. I could work quickly, but I didn't slipsh-- slipshod work, I did a good job, but I could work fast. I did all my- everything I did in those days, I- I moved very quickly.

...never would let them away with what I felt was not right, eh? And that- that's the way I tried to do it. So that it was done right. And it's proves to be- has to be right. And the way that- i-- on the road that I worked on, wherever they were a (inc) the roads are a lot better than where they were slipshod.

Well they gathered with horses and a sloop with a tank on it.

Speaker: You ah, you drew them with a horse and sleigh, and a sloop sleigh, and ah, you put eight or nine logs on that sleigh. <11> What is a sloop sleigh? I don't know what that means. Speaker: Well, it's a sleigh with- that had a bunked front and back and a little sleigh in the back with a- with a tongue that went up onto the front sleigh and then the horses went on to that and ah, it allowed the- it allowed the whole thing to rock and roll because you were coming out of a bush road, you-know, it wasn't smooth or anything, so it had to- it had to adjust like this or it just broke.

Speaker: You ah, you drew them with a horse and sleigh, and a sloop sleigh, and ah, you put eight or nine logs on that sleigh. Interviewer: What is a sloop sleigh? I don't know what that means. Speaker: Well, it's a sleigh with- that had a bunked front and back and a little sleigh in the back with a- with a tongue that went up onto the front sleigh

Went down to the creek, and got some water in and come up and slough (inc) a bunch of this stuff out of this gallon pan and put some sugar in it and drank it.

They asked more questions. They ah, they paid more attention to what they're doing and took more care in what they were doing. Nowadays, just slough it off and let somebody else fix it. And ah, it's the recycled generation, you don't like it, throw it out, get something else. Don't fix it.

Speaker: My grandma I-don't- I don't know what she did. Interviewer 5: (inc) Speaker: She like I-don't-know stay at home mom or-something. And I-don't-know they were both all into curling hard. They were curlers. My grandma- they were both slow-pitch baseball or-whatever. They were all into that. I-don't-know.

Speaker: ... about seven or eight when I joined little-league. Interviewer: Oh okay. Speaker: And I played that until I was thirteen or fourteen when they s-- stopped having the teams. Interviewer: Oh yeah? Speaker: I'm not sure why they stopped. So I had to wait 'til I was eighteen to join the women's slow-pitch league. Interviewer: Oh. Speaker: That was a big difference. Interviewer: Really? Speaker: Very big. Interviewer: In what way? Speaker: Ah you have a ball coming at you at seventy, eighty miles per hour to one that's going two. Interviewer: Yeah. Speaker: (Laughs) Interviewer: Yeah. (inc) slow-pitch? Speaker: (laughs) Yeah. Interviewer: Oh. Speaker: My first pitch of slow-pitch I struck out fifty-two times. Interviewer: Oh really? 'Cause it's just that different? Speaker: It's just that different, I couldn't get the timing.

Speaker: So I would- I would miss that, ah, camaraderie. Interviewer: Yeah. Speaker: Until a couple years ago I still played slo-pitch ball. Um, my cottage is here. Interviewer: Yeah. Speaker: Ah, close friends. Ah, so it would- it would be- it would be very difficult to leave. But we would keep the cottage and still have our cottage here and come back, probably spend most of the summer here, if we left.

... 'cause I didn't like my job, I was going through the paper, so I- I came back and um well I just played baseball. Like there's tons of- well not so much anymore, but there was a lot of slow pitch teams around here, it's very very big and um ah played that and then- well there ringette, and I was talking to someone and they're playing ringette and there was no hockey, nothing else.

Interviewer: There was lots of parties, eh? Speaker: Lots of- there was a lot of baseball tournaments too, eh? Like a big- I remember twenty-eighteens one time for a slow pitch. Interviewer: Okay. Speaker: It was great. Interviewer: (Laughs) Speaker: Now, you're lucky if you got six or eight teams for a tournament.

... um, there was organized baseball, I-mean there was Little-League and I played Little-League, but it just seemed that there was baseball available all the time. You'd- you'd go by the Civic-Field, which now unless there's- there's slow-pitch on in the evening, there's nothing going on. Well you could walk by there any given day during the summer time and there'd be twelve, fifteen, sixteen kids playing baseball all the time. And baseball would just happen. You just go and there would be enough people around.

I still play hockey and ah, I kind of got out of the baseball I played for a few years after I finished my university days, but- Interviewer: Mm. Speaker: S-- slow-pitch didn't do it for me. Um, I had always played fast ball or baseball coming up through until I was sixteen and ah, I just found slow-pitch too slow, so I didn't- I didn't stick it out with the baseball.

Now the ah- the ah sails of the boats of Mr.-Schmidt and Mr.-Caulham, Mr.-Rickards, and-so-on- they were re-- they were proper sails but ah we (inc) small fry had to do with Red-Path sugar-bags.

And they used to- I think they used the same needle and I think it was a five-inch finishing nail. Could they- boy they used to just- they used to smart. All they done is flame them, eh?