... Ben says, you-know he said, "It's just a miracle." Said, "It must've been an angel on his shoulder someplace." That he wasn't killed. But he had his seat-belt on too so.

It was- well in the- in the sense ah people would say "Well don't you think it's dangerous?" And I say "Once you get through Toronto to the airport you're safe." Then fly to Yellowknife or-some-place and from there it takes small aircraft in some northern lake or pond and-

... I think the first school she got was a- up north- up north of Erindale, some place and I think she got a contract for ah teaching for the year was three-hundred-and-fifty dollars. So- money was the thing. You made your own.

... my insurance policy to drive my big farm truck and my insurance agent didn't want to do it. And I said "well that's- that's fine." I said "if- if- if ah you won't insure him to drive my big truck, cancel my insurance, I'll get it some place else."

Well- take the little one in- in Fenelon there which is a small golf course- only nine holes- it's pretty- pretty small and um, it's crowded pretty well all the time. Which is good. Then you get some place like Alder's-Nest which is more challenging and the Lindsay-Golf-Course which is really challenging and there's a lot of golfer's there too.

And I also felt that, when I went on exchange, I didn't want to go ah and ah, be with Canadians. I wanted to go and be with the Scots. ... And so I felt that if I went to large city like Edinburough or some place, you don't meet people in a large city. I don't feel anyway, so I thought, "If I go to a smaller place, you become involved in other people's lives", and I certainly did, I certainly did. It was fabulous. Absolutely fabulous.

Um, and ah, we also really just want some place that's really clean. Doesn't have to be huge but- but new and clean. We saw some gross places. Gross student houses.

... I, as I tell you, spent the most of my days at home. And Charles went to work and of course if we wanted to go any places, it had to be night.

... so those two men that were carpenters sat there on the street and told these men how to do it. But you see now a days you don't- the rafters would be cut someplace else and brought here, so, but that's how we got ours.

So I lasted about half-a-year at the ah residence and then I said, "I- this is not for me," and my poor mom and dad they scrambled to get- find some place for me and ah just through friends they found a family that wanted to take in a boarder and it was like- I lucked out 'cause they- these were the nicest people in the c-- city.

... a lot of schools were buying it and some libraries and-things-like-that so. It- just at- especially at that time there was nothing available so- you-know teachers were desperate to have anything that illustrated- and it's funny- um T-V-O and some outfit in Quebec and some place down in The-States actually bought footage from it- just to illustrate in their own films that they were doing- so it was like- a- a stock-footage ah source as well.

Interviewer: Is it like set teams that show up all the time or is it like pick-up game? Speaker: Oh no that- you show up and the- and we put you some place and-that so.

And um they settled in um Belleville because my grandmother Milton had a- a sister who was a seamstress here with Andrew-MacIsaac tailors down on Front-Street. And so they settled here and all of my aunts became seamstress-workers someplace in Belleville and my father had- had become a carpenter-pattern-maker in Scotland and had his- his papers over there and started working with um- with Samuel-Adams in some of the older places.

... I've got friends that work at Exxon-Mobil, and they go through this same thing you-know. No, we can take out business over to Germany or some place and, "Da da da da da", so I guess when it comes down to it anymore it seems like the- the bottom line is you-know, ah I guess your shareholders and ah, and your- your profits, so-

So ah we ah cleaned it all up and we whitewashed the whole thing, got some whitewash and- and ah we got an old car-seat from someplace and that- that was our- that was our- ... That was our clubhouse for years.

Speaker: ... they were hobo-houses. And ah but that ah- the railroaders knew they were there and but- ... Didn't bother them. They- they would catch maybe the next freight maybe the next day and ah go on and- go on down to Kingston or someplace like that and- Interviewer: And try their- try their luck there getting food or work. Speaker: And- ah- yeah yeah.

Interviewer: What did it cost to- to see the- the Saturday afternoon matinee? Speaker: Ah at that time about fifteen-cents to twenty-five-cents, in that range someplace.

Yeah. They weren't even living together at one time I think. I don't know they were some place else, and the parents had to stay in another place, in another house.

I-- saying to my partner Katie here that I'd like to move some place where there's no snow at all because I'm pretty loaded up with arthritis. Go somewhere where it's dry, year-round eh? I don't know if I could handle it. 'Cause I've grown up in the four seasons.

And ah now there's some place going in called Veg-Out, it's like an organic juice bar right?