Ah we have ah an executive that they- they can join. Like not just join for the- the privileges you have for legion, which is- it's fine and dandy ah but I think if you're going to join legion you should part-- participate as a member and- and- and enjoy it.

...you-know you still had final exams and what not and- and ah you were pretty-well expected if you follow the curriculum and made some changes that ah there weren't an awful lot of people looking over your shoulder. Um and I- I think that has changed now because ah education had become so politicized ah that there seem to be um a lot more fingers in the pot now.

Well, he was married and working on the railroad, he might've helped his father, Uncle-Bradley before that, but when he got married, he lived in Lindsey for two years, do you remember that year or two years? was a fireman, you may have heard him say, on the old grand-trunk.

Interviewer: Well would he be the um- the engineer? Speaker: Or the fireman, or the breakman, or the conductor.

My dad farmed over there and he was- when the first war was on, he was a fireman on the steam-engines for four winters and then he'd take off in the summer and farm and then he'd go back on the rail-road in the winter-time.

So my father worked when he was first first married, worked on the railway for, ah- I'm not sure what he di-- he was a fireman. Yeah. That's right. Because when he- because he had done that when he was overseas. That's what h-- when he was in the army he was a fireman on the trains taking munitions and-so-on in.

You-know, the engineer and- and fireman and conductors and-that-kind-of-stuff, but ah-

Speaker: I really didn't know what I was going to do, I was going to go back and do grade-thirteen and I didn't because my uncle phoned and they were hiring firemen- Interviewer: Oh. Speaker: On the railroad and I hadn't even thought about it but anyway that's where I ended up for five-and-a-half years, fireman on the railway.

Interviewer: As a firefighter, you were- Speaker: Firemen. Yeah, we're not- firemen as in ma-- Interviewer: Mm-hm. Speaker: Firing the locomotives, not a firefighter. Interviewer: No, no no. Speaker: No. Interviewer: Fire- sorry, firemen. Speaker: Right (laughs). Interviewer: Not a firefighter. Speaker: Now they use the term for firefighters. Interviewer: Yeah. Speaker: Yeah. Interviewer: No, you were a fireman.

That didn't last very long. And then he ah- became a blacksmith, and from there he became a fireman, and then he- he eventually became a- what they call a third-class station engineer.

And then- he worked in them- they had a mill down here. And ah- they- they had some- he was the fireman there for a while, and then became an engineer.

I don 't even know how old he was, maybe sixteen, seventeen, perhaps eighteen, but anyway. Um, and he got into verbal fisticuffs with one of the patrons.

Speaker: I don 't even know how old he was, maybe sixteen, seventeen, perhaps eighteen, but anyway. Um, and he got into verbal fisticuffs with one of the patrons. Interviewer: Fisticuffs? Speaker: Fisticuffs, yes! I like that word. With a patron who was probably fourteen, he definitely younger, but again in that sub-adult-hormonal kind-of phase. And um you-know they were yelling at each other and calling each other names and you could see it and I was behind glass,

Speaker: But ah of-course, two ah huh mm two similars don't always ah match up. Interviewer: Right. Speaker: So there was always brawls or- you-know, you write down the fisticuffs and...

Speaker: Fighting, fighting for the puck. Interviewer: Oh okay. Speaker: Not necessarily the fisticuffs-type of thing, right. Interviewer: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Speaker: I didn't do much of that but ah yeah, we played a lot of games. I was on the all-star team for a while...

But you-know, I've known her for a long time, and everybody that knows her, they- they really doesn't- you-know. They know what she's like and she talks like that and doesn't really fizzle on you, you-know, when you're used to hearing her. But I thought, "My word!" y-- (laughs). She can sure come up with words and you think, "Where in the world?" you-know.

Well, at the beginning it was set in pans, big flat pans, and then, when the cream had raise to the top, there was what they called a skimmer of ten, with the little holes in it, and you'd just slip that under the cream, and put it in a special container, 'til you had enough to churn.

Cut them and then when we had a- what they call an old flat pan. They're like those out of stone- out a piece from the house and they- they put the flat pan on it was opened up, you-know, and this- and then you put the sap in there and you sit there and you- boils up.

And ah she made her own soap, from this- when you kill the pigs and-stuff she'd save the- the fat in one-thing-or-another and- and made her- I remember the big flat pan she'd make it in, cut it all in squares and ah- and all- like there's-

... super sweet and the next day she'll be like a huge crazy bitch who's like psycho about everything. And um she always wants her store looking fine and perfect and stuff and then like she's not bad to have around, but it's like annoying 'cause she'll flip-shit any two seconds. And then I have my other- like another manager who is- she's super chill and she's su-- like she'll buy us Timmies and she'll let us go do whatever we want- ...