And we have to come home and couple times there she says "um, wha-- we gonna get there pretty soon?" I said "oh yeah pretty soon." Then we get up here I say "well, you-know, I've gotta re-- gotta remind you we got no running water, no hydro we're so far back in the bush." You-know just to tease her eh but she likes it here 'cause it's nice and quiet.

Interviewer: What would hap-- like did you ever have a curfew or? Speaker: No we didn't, well of course nobody went out at night in- in those days because there were no streetlights. There was no hydro, no nothing. You were in the dark. Until they got streetlights in Coboconk and- and then they got them here too.

... and my other brother worked oh what- he used to do ah- wiring, you-know like- if say you wanted your house wired, if you were getting the hydro he- that was his job. That's the work he worked at. And that's all of us.

... I knew nothing about building. Ah- and-but Charles and as he said he didn't either, but he- he- first thing he done he got ah two books to told you- first of all there was building, carpentering work and then there was hydro and then there was ah plumbing. And any th-- all these you see it was there in front of you, so that he could do a-- any of the things that we wanted done- he done- he done it himself.

... ah- the ah post-depression years. Thirty, and ah- ah not a lot of ah- extra money to go around or benefits. We didn't have running water we didn't have hydro ah we had ah coal-oil lamps and wood stoves and ah my poor mother ah had the hand-washing of ah- of ah all our laundry and clothes. Ah- six children in eight years and ah she deserves a medal ...

... a study between the two plants to see which one was going to stay open. And ah, they take into account, I would imagine, everything from location to- to wages to benefits, to you-know they U-S Canadian dollar, to ah availability of ah everything. From ah, land, hydro, ex-- you-know taxes, so in the end, ah we were lucky. We were fortunate we won out. And ah the- the plant in Greenville closed down.

And ah- and as soon we got the transformer up and the hydro gives up power, we hooked it because you don't want a transformer sitting idle.

But when my older kids, when my older cousin went to school they had a tough time because they didn't speak (laughs)- speak English at all- I mean you-know a little bit, not much. ... 'Cause there's no radio. The farm (inc) there's no hydro.

... if things don't work out, I'm hoping that, like, ah like with ah like a forester or something. ... Like in- in that line, like a- like a- a hydro, or at the da-- like at a power dam. All- like O-P-G, like, they all have lines. That'd be my best bet.

But the club was ideal because there was not- nobody around. It was all family and ah there's no hydro or anything out there but ah it's still good. We had ah- we had a corn roast and-

'Cause nowadays you need more money than ever. ... Like I could go on and on about that, like I-mean this house, when I bought this house, I paid sixty-dollars a month hydro. I pay almost two-hundred now.

... so there'd be ten or twelve of us sit down every- every meal and we had no hydro, no water in the house, and we ate by coal-oil lamps. Coal-oil lamps on the wall around the table and um, that's just the way it was. No telephone.

They raised ten children. ... There was no hydro, there was no wood in the area when we moved up to that place, there was no good wood at all. It was terrible. Cold. Oh God it was cold up there.

... my dad loved ice-cream. And ah- 'course we always had our own whipped-cream and-everything and mum would try making ice-cream sometimes but that was- that was a big job. There's- seemed to be anyways (laughs). But so when- when the hydro come in well then that was a big thing, eh? To have a refrigerator or freezer. That was- that was wonderful.

Like by this time, we had electricity eh? ... I think back in the sixties sometime, they got the milk and they- and the hydro.

There was all- all our friends and bank people that I worked with and-stuff. And there was- there was- we had no water and there was no road in there. At least- no hydro I meant to say. And ah- oh it was another wingding party.

... and we have solar-panels. My uncles in the- my uncle works for Gravity-S-- well he like runs it for the Canadian- ... Part, Gravity-Sun-Power and it's like solar-panels and the energy you make for hydro, you sell to hydro and they give you like a bill like not a bill, but a check every month for the hydro you make.

But like I don't want to think like marriage and kids and where I'm going to live. I rather just live out of my truck for like ten years. ... D-- yeah, think of it. Won't have to pay for like rent, hydro. You could have like a D-V-D player in your truck. You could still watch T-V.

Ah well, the base is on to provide relief for hard-working families. That's what the basis of the policy is is called changebook. Um, the big thing for up here is to get rid of the provincial portion of the H-S-T off home heating, and hydro. Ah, unplug the mandatory smart meters 'cause what happens, you-know, with the mandatory smart meters, they want you to shower before seven A-M and do your laundry after nine P-M to get the benefits of it.

Um, like I said, getting the home- the H-S-T with the provincial portion off home heating, and hydro - obviously, in the north our winters are a lot longer than they are down south, so we'll obviously save a lot more money with that. That's one of the- the major things within the platform.