Ah, what else? Like there's- yeah, you'd have to ask me specifics, if you wanted more- like that's the main thing is the H-S-T off the home heating and hydro.

... they're actually becoming more blue and you'll see within their colours, they actually added blue as one of their main colours in their new platform. They- you won't know that but they want to do the same thing, H-S-T off the home heating and hydro but they want to do that in four years. So after four years, meaning not in the first- this first term but the second term, ah, kind-of interesting, right? They're not going to do it within this election, they're- they want to do it for the next election.

Interviewer: And are similar churches in the area (inc)- Speaker: Oh yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Our minister used to go to two town churches and the one just closed in April. No, I mean there's- when you've only got half-a-dozen people there, ten, you can't- hydro, um everything's very expensive so you can't ah- can't do it.

... but on a nice big piece of property, these people won the lottery. ... You-know, they came from their postage stamp in Cobalt and wound up with a- you-know, a seventy-five or hundred-by-hundred piece of land in North-Cobalt with water and sewer and heat and hydro and all-that-fun-stuff.

And I almost got electrocuted twice 'cause the bosses brother had- was losing his memory and when he told us the hydro was off, twice it wasn't off and we could have been electrocuted.

And ah- so I seen a lot of that and I could go into any job and help prevent those kind of accidents because you know how- how it happens and- and what causes them, eh? Same with- same with saying you're going to turn the hydro off and you forget to do it. You can't fool with somebody like that. It's- it's deadly. So I got twenty-five near accidents. Twenty-five close calls and- and a lot of them could have been avoided.

And my- there was no mothers'-allowance, there was nothing to help young women who was in the same situation. So she went back to the farm where there was no hydro, no heat except wood stove. ... After being in town where there was hydro, running water out of a tap. Back to the da-- the wells and lighting coal-lamps and ha-- taking care of a little baby.

And ah, but a lot of people are not having traditional funerals anymore and it's a lot of overhead for the people that own it. ... You-know taxes and heat and hydro and-everything-else- ... So they're downsizing. The only thing is I don't know what they're going to do to- to ah, with that building there.

The trees were producing the food. The water was producing the food. They were probably far better off that the- the poor people here who had to pay for heat and hydro, all those things. They didn't actually need it there.

Well I kind-of think the biggest change would be the hydro coming into effect. Doing things that- you could do something with the hydro. We didn't have hydro, I- it was quite a thing when it come.

You could get this in electric, and you could get something else, and- it- didn't have to have the old lamps that you had to clean up all the time (laughs). Just swi-- ... Put the switch on, and- (laughs) yeah. No, that was a great thing, that p-- hydro.

They didn't have hydro 'til what? Nineteen-sixties or-something?

Ah, there has been an awful lot of changes. A-- and ah, li-- like that- even as far as- as a home. Like for years, as I say, we had no hydro. And- and you- ... Y-- you heat-- ah, we had a big long bathtub and you heated the water on the stove. And maybe two or three of us had of a bath in the same water.

Speaker 2: They didn't have hydro 'til what? Nineteen-sixties or-something? Speaker: Sixties before the hydro ever went by up through here. See that old lamp up there?

Speaker 2: Like people- that was before people had refrigerators and-stuff, that's all they had. Speaker: Well there was no hydro here so-

So we- I think they got hydro here in this place in eighteen-thirty-eight and dad and mother put it in. You had the sign for hydro to get enough of people in the lane to get the hydro through so they were the house in nineteen-forty-two and then I-guess there was the barn in fifteen-seven. Then you bought a milking machine and a lot of things because you had power to run them so-

Speaker: But there was no- the first hydro came to Ramsey-Township in about nineteen-thirty, I-think. Interviewer: Do you remember that? That must have been- ... Quite the big deal. Speaker: ... I remember the story. It had to be passed by council for hydro to come in. And I spent twenty-nine years in council so I've heard a lot of stories. ... I did hear that there was one gentlemen was opposed to it and somebody else had a tendency to vote the same way as he did ... And when (laughs) the reeve brought up the question and somebody said vote- "Stick up your hand George." So he stuck up his hand and the other guy stuck up his hand and then later on in the meeting they said, "When is, ah, this hydro issue coming up?" "Oh you voted for that a while ago so you-" That was a sleight-a-hand thing, so-

And ah Patterson's-Drug-Store come next. And that's where my mother and dad dealt all the time with Patterson's-drugstore. And then we had the garage and the hydro is next. There was a garage like where- I forget who owns it- owned it then. I didn't get the name of the man that owned- ah Deram-Childs owns it now. ... And they there was the hydro which next to that. And then it was Earl-Scott's um furniture.

Speaker: And Harvey-Reggie lost two cows, killed with lightning. Interviewer: So you think it hit the barn or? Speaker: Yes I th-- I th-- no I'll- I think it come in on hydro maybe. W-- there was lightning rods on the r-- on the roof alright. I-don't-know. But i-- it was a terrible smash.

We had no hydro 'til ah, I don't know what come in forty-nine or forty-eight. Some was (inc) blue is forty-nine before we had hydro. Always the milk went down and used to have a big well out here. It was plastered into rock, twenty-seven feet deep and you had a pail and you just let the milk go down in the well. ... To keep it cold.