... totally different personalities. I can see ah the little guy growing up as a teenager being the one standing on the back of the couch with the keg on the coffee table and throwing a huge party. ... As opposed to the daughter, well I can see her having the little mickey in her bag hiding in the bedroom with her friends and sipping on it. Two totally different personalities.

Anyway, I went to this party out- this is another place out in the country. And there's- it was basically myself, Sean and older kids. And there was like- there's some kids my age but um we ended up going and we had- so we both had a mickey of ah vodka. ... And we're like ah we were going to be here night 'cause we were planning on staying the night-

I knew I had to drive to Sudbury with my other friend and his mom. But I didn't really- yeah I didn't really pay much attention so I ended up getting- going there, we're like "Okay we're- we have to chug this." So we each chugged a mickey. ... So I was five-five, probably a hundred and- if a hundred and thirty pounds, I was probably like- I was very small, right? ... And um so chugged that. We were fine, like it was okay, let's go.

... when I first came back especially to all like the sort-of new friends like "Yeah you were- yeah you were loud. You were cocky." I'm like "I wasn't that bad!" Like he- but I think he- he makes more of it like just to- to take the- the Mickey out of me a bit but- ... Um but anyway so, by the time grade-ten rolled around, I sort-of had- I was a bit sort-of like loud and- ...

And that was it, it was a special occasion that you got a case of beer, which probably was about eight or nine dollars in those days. And ah- or you'd have a- s-- mickey of rye and then when we got a little more affluent we switched to scotch. And now I don't like rye, it gives me a headache.

When- when we had the flu or the cold, went to work and worked hard and got over it. Sweat her out. Um, if that didn't work bring home the mickey-remedy.

Interviewer: I shut down here, is there a story with the lightning and the phone? Is there a story there you can tell? Speaker: Not too much, only that it knocked me for a loop. (laughs) ... Interviewer: Alright? So you were just on the phone- Speaker: And then- and the kegs was here, the- Mickey and- somebody was sitting on the couch.

I guess there was a boys' basketball. I don 't know. 'Cause when they were in the gym we weren 't allowed in and when we were in the gym they didn 't come in. We had to wear those silly looking middies and bloomers.

Well, ah, a lot of the kids wore tunics an-- and they called them middies, it was the white- white top and ah like a jumper sort-of-thing, a navy top- it was like a school uniform some kids would wear...

Well it's the upper part of the barn. You walk into the barn floor w-- and there's a- a mow on each side that you mile the hay. Before we had ma-- ah, bails, there was a hay fork rope, ah, a hay fork. We still have it up in the barn.

Speaker: I've often heard that word and nitchin. Interviewer: Yeah. Speaker: Oh yes, he's missing school. 'Now off to school you go- go and milk the nitchin.'

It's part of the milkhouse there and we keep the feed in it.

And then some people had a house outside too, and they called it the milkhouse. And it was made of stone and they used to keep their milk and butter and-stuff in there.

Speaker: Ah, in those- in those times, like, you were saying about my older brothers, they looked after milking the cows. But I was hauled in for to be the hauler of the milk from the- you-know, from the barn over to where we kept the milk in, ah- in the milkhouse. Interviewer: Yeah. Speaker: And, of course, the milk had to be put into thirty gallon cans and, ah, again, ah, we had a- we had an icehouse, which was adjacent to the milkhouse, where a bit of ice would be thrown into the tubs where the cans were inserted into the water and, ah, of course, w-- well water was a big deal. Ah, so it was pumped from the, ah, wells by pipe down into the milkhouse and again it was just cold water from the well that was the- the main part- Interviewer: And- Speaker: Of cooling the milk. Interviewer: And where did the ice come from? Speaker: The ice was in- in the icehouse. It ca-- actually come out of McLaren's-Lake. In the wintertime it was brought home and because of the sawmill been so handy, ah, we used all kinds of sawdust to store, we had ice in September.

Speaker: That no, ah- that was, ah, before they got these cupboards. (laughs) Then of course the cupboards came. Interviewer: Yeah. Speaker: You mind of them, great big square cupboards.

Speaker: I drove through- we drove through Ottawa, and, ah, someplace else. And, ah- Interviewer: Huxbury? Speaker: I couldn't tell you, but we went to- went, ah, ah- I think we must have been kept more to the, ah, river. I- I don't mind of going through, ah- through Montreal, for, ah, the last time, the time we drove.

Interviewer: Do you mind them well? Your grandmother- your- your mother's mother? Speaker: I mind of my mother and- in the- I asked, I think it was my sister Julie, why they were putting Granny in the box.

She was keeping an eye out. So she brought us pair into the school and ah tried to get us to tell. My cousin, he would not say a word, no. But I could just take so much of it and then I talk back and- and ah, so she was giving me a pretty hard time so I decided I weren't taking any more, got up to leave. So she decided she'd put me back down the seat. It didn't happen, I put her down on the floor and pinned her there and ah- <10> (laughs) Speaker: She u-- she weren't upset at all, and she couldn't quit laughing. She said "This ah really isn't the way it's supposed to be." (laughs) <10> (laughs) Speaker 2: (laughs) Speaker: I mind of that.

I can mind of the singing it. "Auntie-I-Over, throw your leg over."

Interviewer: (laughs) Oh yeah. And- and Cliff, going back, when you were a little boy, what kind of a farm did your mom and dad have? Speaker: Oh, it was mixed. We milked cows. I mind- I mind of milking twelve cows.