Interviewer: You had to learn to ride when you were young? Speaker: Oh no, we never got time to ride. We just worked (laughs). Interviewer: (Laughs) Speaker: I mind- (laugh) I mind of being out west in forty-two.

Ed-Drake and father took two different loads to Ottawa to the market. Fifty-two gallons or-something at a time. Loaded the old (inc) down pretty- pretty good. And I mind of them saying that they were Jews- Jewish people was in the market and ah store keeping and-that-stuff in Ottawa at that time.

Interviewer: So how big was the Maberly-Fair in your lives when you were growing up? Speaker: How healthy? Interviewer: How big was it. And how big a part of your lives was it? Speaker: About same as it is today. Maberly-Fair's has been a highlight in Maberly for a good while. I don't mind of when it ever failed.

Interviewer: W-- when you were young- did- did- we- we've talked about going to Perth, but did you go to Lanark at all very much or- Speaker: Oh yeah, a- a lot of time. Interviewer: Or Sharbot-Lake? Speaker: Not so much. Never had that much to do with Sharbot-Lake, I don't know why. I don't mind of it anyway.

Interviewer: Um what else is like ah well you know, miner's-mouth (inc). Speaker: Miner's-mouth? Interviewer: Yeah. All the cursing and (inc). Speaker: Oh. That's the first thing I thought of when you said miner's-mouth, but ah. Interviewer: Yeah. Do you- do you- did you ever find that your ah your father would swear a lot coming home from work or?

Interviewer: Do you think that the ah, the mine has played a role in how- well, the mines played a role in how people speak English? Speaker: I-don't-know. Interviewer: No? Speaker: Groups- groups of men and- ah, well, probably, it must have. Interviewer: Miner's mouth? Speaker: Miner's mouth, you-know, go home, and I'm sure they came up with, you-know, some short forms, or weird- weird ways of saying things.

And I think that's just because of that closeness. I don't think you'd see that with people in um Southern-Ontario and-that. But working in the mine, working that- it's like we said about the F-word at the mine, the miner's-mouth. Because you work with them. And I worked with them for many summers.

But it's ver-- I don't want to call it the blue-collar talking and they're the white-collar talking, but it's almost- I think like that- here we talk "ahh" you-know, there's some swear words once in a while. Eff this eff that. It's called the miner's-mouth. My wife had it- she worked in the (laughs)- she worked in the um ah at the Kidd-Creek Med-site. And ah oo she gets it from that. And it's true.

It was a choice to come back to the farm, not that just it was ah expected of you. You-know because lots of people get- get mired in a family business like that and you feel that you have to follow along on the family footsteps and- but this was a choice that everybody had, so that's good.

... then um the second year and third year, I actually lived at Silent-Lake-Provincial-Park ... they had um M-N-R had a staff-house there where they would put all the the parks' staff and they also took some of their students, if their students didn't have suitable accommodation, and it was really difficult to sometimes to commute back and forth ...

... we stayed there ... but we actually we would leave there in the morning and up to Band-- Bancroff office pick up our trucks- oh well actually sometimes we were actually allowed to take the trucks down with us because we were working there and we were parking in an M-N-R facility. They probably don't do that now but they let us take the trucks home ... um and then we would get our gear, refresh any of the chemical kits that we needed 'cause we were doing some of the water chemistry as well ...

Yeah, I wanted to put some bass in there and they wouldn't let me. ... Ah, they didn't want it in the same waters as- I don't know why but the M-N-R would control that eh.

... ah environmental and natural resource programs.... A lot of them are offered through college and then you go to university after. ... So I- I might just do that and like- for, like, M-N-R forestry, or conservation. Something where you're, like, outside doing stuff. ... And- and probably come back to Porcupine to work. Or if I find somewhere like, I know I don't want to live in a big city.

... you-know you always manage to get the itch over here too, but that's- that- I mean that's curable, all you got to do is rub yourself down really well with a towel, which you can probably do with these fleas too. Ah but I know the M-N-R out there, they're taking um nets and they're dropping nets down and bringing them back up again to see how many of these little creatures that they can bring in. They're also dissecting some of the smaller fish to see whether the fish are eating them ...

Speaker: ... when they- when they closed that, a lot of people had the option of moving away. So even if they didn't want to move away, they kind of had to. ... We used to have a bigger a- much bigger M-N-R here than w-- than we do now so we lost a lot of jobs there.

Somewhere way up north, they named this lake after him. ... But he was- he was very dedicated t-- and he worked very hard with the M-N-R in Timmins and he'd help with restocking lakes and- and-things-like-that.

... it's in the middle of the day and everybody stops in the highway and there's this moose and scared it. It turned around and- ... Went back to across the lake to ah- to Quebec. He didn't go to ah Dawson-Point. ... And ah M-N-R got involved and alerted them on the other side and ah, the moose expired. He got up on shore and collapsed. I-mean, that's a- a ten mile swim. And he just had a heart attack.

And- and that's- and it's an issue with bears up here. There- there was another ah couple that- the bear-watch people don't come. M-N-R won't come unless there's four or five problem bears.

Interviewer: Is- i-- is there a lot of coyotes? Speaker: There are actually, eating a lot of livestock. Sheep and other livestock so they were rather concerned about that. And then- so the M-N-R did come in and do a presentation.

And it's interesting because even though you shoot one coyote, doesn't necessarily mean you shot the one that's attacking your livestock. ... if you kill the one that are keeping the other coyotes away, you could be introducing the ones that have been trained to eat off your farm into your population. So it is an interesting tactic that the M-N-R are working out with now and doing studies on.