I- I know millions of kids saw it and I- I rue the day that that happened. Um, but my daughter didn 't and doesn 't know about it. She found out about Holly-Jones I think it was Jones- Holly-Jones last year. She came home and we were just chatting and-stuff and she said...

Interviewer: Do you- was she strict with you? Speaker: Oh yeah, sure she ruled the roost at home.

Speaker 1: Then there was a bit of rum-running. Speaker 2: Oh Belleville was noted for its rum-running. Speaker 1: Well they used to bring the liquor down from Corbyville, load it on the boats to take down to Saint-Pierre and Miquelon.

Speaker 1: Oh Belleville was noted for its rum-running. Speaker 2: Well they used to bring the liquor down from Corbyville, load it on the boats to take down to Saint-Pierre and Miquelon.

Oh men, men, men not just- and then of-course in Belleville why ah a lot of the people in Bellville used to do the rum-running across the lake you-know.

Interviewer: Okay. Do you remember when your family, I guess maybe your parents first got a car? Speaker: Mm, as far as I can remember, they always had one. ... my father had one with a rumble-seat. Interviewer: What's that? Speaker: Ah, the seat is outside. At the back- at the back. ... It um- it was out- it would close up at the back and then you open it, and there was a seat. And so when you were- you were out in the open, sitting. But it was just like a back seat. But it was at the back of the car and out in the open. ... My brother and I used to sit in there. Interviewer: Yeah? Why is it called a rumble-seat? Speaker: You-know, I-don't-know. ... Maybe because it was a rough or-something (laughs).

Speaker: ... Bill had this old model-T and did you ever hear of a car with a rumble seat? Interviewer: A rumble seat? No.Speaker: Yeah. This was- it was ah like a one seat in the front but the- you explain what a rumble seat is. Speaker 2: Really just a- a section at the back that came down with another seat in it. ... Speaker: if you didn't want to use it, you just closed it up. But if you had an extra couple people in it you ah you put them in it. Yeah, it was (laughs)- it was the rumble seat. Yeah, that was interesting.

And I remember the first film I saw. Now it was in Perth, and it was in the summertime and ah we had a guy work for us who had a nineteen-thirty-four Dodge with a rumble seat, I think it was, and he invited us to come to Perth and see ah the show and my brothers- two brothers and I, sat in this rumble seat in the back and drove to Perth and we saw, "My-Friend-Flicka."

And ah they- they- some of them would have ah wagon buggy-type wagons and some of them would have old cars with a rumble seat and ah a contraption on the back where you- you put in this table and ah, milk could sit on there and then when you went to church you'd close the (inc) rumble seat and use the car for that.

Certain evening they'd probably- but ah- there wasn't too much- people mostly walked those days, you-know? They, ah- wasn't too much driving. Everybody had horses or oxen but that was for work, not for- for, ah, um, running the roads as they used to say in the old days.

Interviewer: Good! What do you- what do you do now with your- with your time? Speaker: Just- just run the roads- run the roads. We- I have a friend- like my wife died in ninety-five like that's severe sickness cancer and- and it was (inc) and my daughter-in-law died just a year and a half before that and it was worse.

And so the ruts on the streets were frozen solid.

It was a trail through the bush but what we know call the Rideau-Ferry-Road, g-- yes, a- very much a trail with- with ruts and after rain it would be a quagmire.

And dad- or mom, needed to go for some groceries, she had to get out first thing the morning when it was froze 'cause it could be ruts there maybe a foot deep. Some places on the Galbraith-Road there, there was soft spots in there too and yet they try and dodge the- the ruts the- where you get stuck in the bottom (laughs).

Interview: Whereabouts was that? Speaker: Ah, about ah, five miles past ah Delhi, towards ah, what do you call it? ... Yeah, down towards ah, where they make the rye whisky, down that part of Windsor.

Interviewer: Did you drink anything else besides beer? Speaker: Oh yeah. Whatever was going around. Speaker 2: Rye. Speaker: Rye, rum. Yeah rye. Rye- yeah rye was the big one. Speaker 2: Big one back then rye for sure. Speaker: That's all we used to drink.

Interviewer: Did you drink anything else besides beer? Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Whatever was going around. Speaker: Rye. Speaker 2: Rye, rum. Yeah rye. Rye- yeah rye was the big one. Speaker: Big one back then rye for sure. Speaker 2: That's all we used to drink.

Remember the Five-Star-Rye? They used to have that little plastic thing on the bottle of rye. Used to go over to Agincourt there on Glenn-Waford and they used to have the old style liquor store.

... as a child, you-know, we as Europeans, I mean liquor is part of life ... in the- you-know, and um I remember being about twelve-years-old and my father used to like rye-and-ginger-ale, and it smelled really good so I said "Well, can I try some?" "Sure, go ahead" and I- and so I, you-know, I had a drink. It was- it was very um potent ... and I remember the way I felt afterwards, just dreadful.

But what we did was, they had a big big punch bowl and they filled it with rum, rye, vodka, gin.... And the groom, he didn't have to drink the whole thing, but he had to take a big- and what they did was, they lifted him up and he never- he can't touch any of the food on the table.