...but I only w-- stayed for one and a half years so (laughs) got half way through grade-ten when the mines all closed down and everybody was ah- you-know, tightfisted and out of work and that-sort-of-thing so my- my mother took a trip up to f-- um Artfield to her brother's place to see if she could get a job...

Um I'd do everything there too. Like do the till do the cheese. And ah my brother on Saturdays would go and get the cheese-curd from Camleford and then he'd come back and I'd bag it all.

Cause it's so wonderful y-- you-know you're going to pick something up and you run into someone and you have a little chit-chat find out how things are going in their life and you round the next aisle and oh there's somebody else that you know and you talk to them for a little bit and then you get to the cash register and you know the lady behind the till and- you-know it's just- I think it's- ah the- it's very- I- I feel from my perspective that it's a very connected community, from my perspective.

Interviewer: When you have your own business it's often like that isn't it? Speaker: Yeah, you- close to the till

Because- because he- he does all the dirty work around here, but at the end of the day, he has just as much money as you guys got in the till."

Speaker: Very good. Just well stock shelves and waited on people. Sometimes we would on the till and- Interviewer: Yeah. Speaker: Lot of time we worked in the back like we used to get th-- we used to get the tea was loose and we parcelled it up into little packages

It's not- it's all chain-saws and they have a big timberjacks they- they (inc) with the big machine.

So my father did advance and took that, you-know, went with that change and bought some equipment. One of his pieces, one of his timberjacks is at the Algonquin-Park. They have a logging museum there, so um, he has a piece of his equipment there, 'cause he was one of the guys that had the equipment first.

Um what else is kind of- Tim's- Timmy's is North-America- I guess it's Ontario, Timmy's. Or Canada, I guess we all say Timmy's. Ah ... what's a- I-don't-know, do you know any? (laughs) No?

... like she's not bad to have around, but it's like annoying 'cause she'll flip-shit any two seconds. And then I have my other- like another manager who is- she's super chill and she's su-- like she'll buy us Timmies and she'll let us go do whatever we want- like we're allowed to like just chill instead of like worrying and-stuff-like-that about what like making the store look good all the time. So she's cool to have ...

Interviewer: Of all the places you applied, which job do you want the most? Speaker: Right now probably Timmies because of how close it is (laughs). ... Interviewer: That's an easy job to do. Speaker" Well, Timmies it's just right there like- ... It wouldn't take long to get there and it's nice if- even if I get tired after or-something.

Like you-know, not everywhere- like Sudbury is pretty good, it's like Kirkland too I find. ... Just ah, like I said, everything's so close, like Timmy's is there, like two minutes for me like I take the dog for a walk, we're there, eh? Um, complex everything. Like ah, and the beach, close, everything. I just ah- I just find the people are friendly in Kirkland.

... Tim-Hortons ah um home-base, like where did it all start? Where's the- where's the birth place of- where's the birth place of ah I'll- I'll send you it via email too, ah yeah, it's in Hamilton. Tim-Hortons right? That's where Timmies started right? Okay do you where beavertails st-- got started? Do you-know where the birth place of Beavertails is?

Well my father used to take tin type pictures. The old days, they were tin type. They were um- the man would stand on the street and he'd have a um a cover over his head and he would snap a picture and immediately develop it and um he- my father used to do it.

Well when they do that, the roots do this, they die back. All that goes in the ground as mulch. So they came on to a tired farm which everybody said you're going to have to foul that farm, you're going to have to rest it 'til it can come back to life.

When my oldest son tried out for hockey um he tried out in North-Bay and he got cut and he was a goalie so somebody from Ferris called hearing that he had got cut and wanted him to play in Ferris and at the time we kind-of said "Well, no because you'll be black-balled" (laughs) th-- yeah. Interviewer: What's that? Speaker: Well like black-balled, you'd be kind-of okay looked down upon and if they ever tried to get back into the North-Bay system they might not let you because you were kind-of a turn-coat and went to Ferris and that was a big issue back then.

Speaker: And they were a big name fam-- like, there was the certain names in the area. Londons were- 'cause they've been here for years and years, they owned different businesses and-stuff. And then they didn't help one of their own when they needed help because that one had been black-balled for some reason when they were younger. But there was the big names back when I was a kid.

No. And I- this is another thing I can remember one of the, it was one of the boys was acting up and the teacher sent me to the principal's office to get the strap, 'cause he was going to be strapped and I thought, "I 'm not going to get that strap." And so I went and I waited around and waited around outside the office and just sort-of walked back and forth and came back and said, "The principal wasn 't there, I couldn't get the strap." Interviewer: And what did the teacher say? Speaker: She said, "Well, we’ll get it later." So I don 't know if I ever got it later, but I was bound I wasn't going to get him that strap.

Interviewer: Was there punishment if you stepped out of line, kind-of-thing? Speaker: No. Nobody stepped out of line. Interviewer: No, they knew better. Speaker: Um, yeah. I did get the strap twice. Interviewer: Did you? Speaker: Once unjustifiably. Only from Mr-H too. Oh no, there 's a man- a vice-principal named Mr-B. He administered the strap. Forgotten that.

Speaker: Well there were few guys with l-- th-- at that time the strap still existed and you-know p-- I didn't get the strap. I got spanked once by a teacher, which would be entirely inappropriate today, but um you- know some of them had anger-management-problems, let 's just put it that way.