Speaker: We, ah- they called it- the Scotch people called it cow-byre. (laughs) Interviewer: Is that what you called it? Speaker: Cow-byre. Interviewer: You called it that, did you? Speaker Oh, yeah. Interviewer: Yeah. You said you had another building for the calves though. Speaker: Yes. Interviewer: What did they call that? Speaker: Well, the calf-house. (laughs) Interviewer: The calf-house, not the byre? Speaker: No.

Speaker: Byres and (laughs) you-know. Interviewer: Oh yeah. For the cows, what did you have for the cows? Speaker: Chickens were held with byres. Interviewer: Yes. Speaker: You know what a byre is? (inc) Interviewer: What would that be like? Ah, like an ordinary barn? Speaker: Well, it was onto the barn. You see it was a- Interviewer: Oh. Speaker: Just like a great big shed. Interviewer: Yes. Speaker: And then off that a byre connected with (inc) to retain your cows in you see. About twelve or thirteen cows in there. Retain them with an egg. Interviewer: Now was it part of the big barn then, or-? Speaker: It was right under it. Interviewer: Underneath the barn? Speaker: Yes. Interviewer: And that was the byre underneath? Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: Milked them in the byre. Interviewer: Yeah. Speaker: Mm-hm. Interviewer: Did you have a, ah- a building there where you kept the milk? Speaker: Ah, let me see. I think in those days we- we separated our milk. Interviewer: Mm-hm. Speaker: With a separator. And sent our cream to the creamery. Interviewer: Yeah. Speaker: Mm-hm. Interviewer: Where would you do the separating? Speaker: Oh, I think we done- in the barn cooler. Interviewer: Yeah. Speaker: Near the byre, you-know.

They knew where- where they stood in the byre rank.

Speaker: They get- they get to know you a little in a decent byre, though. Many is the time I worked with, a people milked out in the byre- out of the byre and then out at the barnyard we called it. And these- (inc) is still there. Nice clean place. Interviewer: Mm-hm. So we were going through the buildings weren't we? You've got your- the barn that has the cow byre with it. Speaker: Yes. Interviewer: What other little buildings for animals did you have? Or for- did you have a- a s-- separate building for storing the grain? Or did you- Speaker: Oh yes, for the granary. Interviewer: Yeah. Speaker: Oh yes for the granaries- they were right beside the byre. Interviewer: Mm-hm. Speaker: By the byre.

Speaker: That's- (laughs) the upper part is the barn, and the upper part is the cow- is the cow-byre. Interviewer: The- the lower part's- Speaker: Yeah. Interviewer: The cow-b-- Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. The cow-byre, yeah. Interviewer: The cow-byre. Was the- was the cow-byre sometimes separate from the barn? Speaker: Oh yes. That's the proper way to have it too. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What was it made out of? Speaker: Hm? Interviewer: How do- how do you build one of those? Speaker: You just build it up high enough for- about six feet. And then put the roof over. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What- from what? Speaker: Hm? Interviewer: What- what- what'd you make the roof of? Speaker: I (inc) you could ever seem to have to build it with. They could put rafters up, and put a G-roof on like this, do-you-see, or they could put on a- a more flatter one and so on. Interviewer: And that- and that's called a cow-byre? Speaker: Eh? Interviewer: That's called a call- cow-byre? Speaker: Right

Stable, cow byre.

That would be the cow byre. Cow byre, that's what they called it. Now they- they don't call it that now you-know. They call it the- well it's just the barn. But it used to be the cow byre.

And uh, and the cows, they'd be in the cow-byre and the horses would have the horse-stable-

Speaker: My mother took me down to show me the ice, big chunks of ice floating down front street, the water was up so high you-know. Interviewer: And she called them? Speaker: Cake of ice. So I went down and thought, "Where's the cake? I thought I was going to have cake."

And this girl she goes around calling on people, and the second some raises a fist, you got three guys right behind her, ready to defend her. Like what's the point of that. That's a cry to help to me. So one day she was actually calling on this one guy, and this guy ridiculously built for a- especially grades- grade eight- especially for someone who's like twelve years old- thirteen, fourteen I guess, I-don't-know. And she's calling him on and this is the f-- the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen.

'Cause this one frien-- my one friend- when he was calling all on his brother. So he just came in with his hat- Interviewer: He was what- he was what? Speaker: Calling on his one friend's brother. So- but this kid like who was calling on my friend Matthew. He was afraid that he had like AIDs or-something. So he wrapped over his hat over his hand and just went up to him and just started hammering him.

I was never in the schola in the seminary, that was a- the group which would sing special types of- Calliphony and all that type-of-stuff.

I felt that he - he had the, uh, understanding and the formal education. Uh, he came up a different line than I came up.

People down there say "cottage", eh? (laughs) Interviewer: Cottage, yeah, yeah, I've heard that too. Speaker: Um- Interviewer: And to us, cottage is, like, a fancy- Speaker: Yeah, yeah! Interviewer: Mansion-y thing, like, yeah.

Um, Onaping Lake. Interviewer: Onaping Lake. I don't think I've even been there. I know it's like close by but like I just- Speaker: Yeah. Interviewer: Never camped around here. Speaker: Yeah. Interviewer: Is it far or? Speaker: It's- I-don't-know. To get to like her camp we had to take a boat. It was about a two-hour drive on the lake.

Interviewer: Exactly, yeah. And now you have your grandkids you can bring there and-stuff, so- Speaker: Yeah. Interviewer: That's awesome. Speaker: Had Kylie here under two weeks ago. Brought her to camp for the weekend. Interviewer: Oh yeah? Speaker: And then that week, one morning Sunday, Sheridan had to do some work on transcripts so me and Kylie went for a swim in the pool. Interviewer: Oh okay. Speaker: Before I brought her back home.

Speaker: Oh, she loved it. Interviewer: She loved it? Yeah. Speaker: Went for a bike ride, we went fishing, she caught a fish- well, I- I caught a fish and she helped me bring it in. Interviewer: Yeah. Speaker: We put it in the live-well. She played with it for a while and then we brought it back to camp and then we released them in the water. Interviewer: That's cute, yeah. Speaker: Yeah, and then we went for another bike ride then went to a beach for a while.

Well, a camp they call a cottage. Interviewer: Mm-hm, yeah. Speaker: What else? Interviewer: I know it's hard. My sister ended up coming back to me afterwards with words but ah- um- I know we tend to- Speaker: A wall-eye we call a pickerel.

Speaker: He just came back from out West. He was working ah past Red-Deer. Interviewer: Okay. Speaker: So. Interviewer: Well that's cool though. So you guys get together a lot here 'cause you're all pretty close? Speaker: Oh yeah we get together mostly at the camp, yeah. Interviewer: Okay. Oh yeah where's your camp? Speaker: Or here. At Agnew-Lake. Interviewer: Agnew? Speaker: Yeah. Interviewer: Whereabouts is that? I don't think I have heard of it. Speaker: Ah just- not far from Espanola.