Interviewer: No, I can 't remember what it 's- Speaker: Chesterfield. Interviewer: Yeah yeah, chesterfield, yeah. Speaker: Chesterfield. I grew up with all those Italian Canadian words, you-know, the (inc) you-know? The (inc), the backyarda, you-know, that 's what I grew up with, 'cause we had to always- we had to talk and it 's our way of saying (inc). My mother was like, "Fine, fine I know what you 're trying to say. It 's fine," you-know, "You 're- at least you 're talking some Italian," right?

Interviewer: Can I ask you what- just out of a curiosity, what do you call this? This- Speaker: Chesterfield. Interviewer: You call it a chesterfield as well.

...and then there was a novelist, she was writing about murder-mystery in the Victorian era of Toronto, and that 's when the discussion of chesterfield versus couch came up.

Interviewer: ...what would you call this that I 'm sitting on? Speaker: Chesterfield. Interviewer: Chesterfield right, yeah. And that 's a Canadianism, because most people call it a couch. Speaker: Or sofa in The-States. Interviewer: Or sofa in The- States. So you do call it a chesterfield? Speaker: We call it a chesterfield. Yeah.

But the next day he- no I-guess he came up and somehow he was sitting on the chesterfield and somehow money dropped out of his pocket back underneath this chesterfield cushion and I thought, "Gee, I rather like that chap." You-know, it was- yeah. So I phoned him and I said, "Jack, you left a nickel here and, you-know, I just wanted to tell you." And he said "Oh, I'll come up after it."

Ah off the kitchen was a bedroom with bunks because that's the only the thing that would fit in the bedroom. My sister had one, and I had the other. The living-room ah that held a big overstuffed chesterfield, two chairs, the piano, and I don't know how they ever got all that in there (laughs), and the coffee table.

Interviewer: Um, do you notice any words that you're parents use that you don't use? Speaker: Not so much my parents but my grandparents. Interviewer: Oh yeah? Speaker: Like my grandpa says chesterfield a lot for couch

Interviewer: Was there any like words that like people used to use back in the day, like chesterfield for couch that they don't use anymore- Speaker: Oh sure, yeah, chesterfield, yeah.

And he was played out. He went downstairs and laid on the sofa and that chesterfield for a little- a little couch we had. And ah, 'til mother called him again.

I'm sorry I couldn't (laughs) be more of a help with that word, chesterfield. My dad uses weird words though sometimes. He'll- he'll use big words and he'll just slip it into everyday conversation.

And when she got home, she got up on the- on the chesterfield, she (laughs)- she wanted to fly.

Interviewer: Before I go, I wanted you to remind me, what- what is the piece of furniture that you're sitting on here. Speaker: Chesterfield. Interviewer: Thank-you. Speaker: I spend a lot of time here.

Speaker: You-know as far as education is concerned, education that I got you can stick down underneath that chesterfield.

And she says, "Well it's not that I don't like my daughter-in-law," she said. "But" she said, "He m-- she makes (laughs)-" um "sleeps sometimes on a chesterfield and it's not a leather chesterfield, it's one of those um plastic things and I think it's giving them piles."

And they made all the little doilies like all- like they would doilies all made up and all starched up with them standing up perfectly to ah- you-know when you- in the center of a table there would be a doily and it'd be all perfectly starched, standing up looking like- like little loops going around. And the back of most chesterfield had a doily on it that would protect the back of the che-- chesterfield. And parts of the house would only be used at certain points of the time and it would closed off in the wintertime. Certain parts of the house b-- 'cause it'd be harder to heat.

We was just starting out in there. And so I never said anything. I remember my wife, she was sitting on the chesterfield over by the- and the one boy on each side of her, and she's- when he started talking she was out like this waiting for the explosion.

And then broke- broke that big bone. And I can still remember when the doctor came- doctor came to the house and r-- but her on the toboggan and roared up to the house and mom put her on the- the bed- or the- the chesterfield I guess it was and um the doctor came to the house and he said oh yes, he said her leg is broken so um he gave her something to- to help her to sleep and you-know get rid of the pain and-stuff.

Everyone's really chill and nice and I'm friends with the boss.

I like the like laid-backness I-guess, I don't think that's a word but like of North-Bay like I like that it's like- it's just chill.

And um I-don't-know it's pretty chill.