I-don't-know, we just- we just kind of like, chirp each other, just joking around and-stuff.

Yeah, and it's- I find it, like, ah- it's- I find it funny, like, you'll be lining up to- on the- like, to kind-of come out where- and there's fans like, all around you, and everyone will be chirping you, and like, "You suck!" And-stuff-like-that.

I was getting pissed at one guy in Saginaw, 'cause one guy on our team got in a fight and got, ah, like, kind-of like knocked out by the guy on Saginaw, and he was chirping him and chirping him, and I felt like, just like, sticking him in the face.

...and this one said well "Somebody had all these babies and she lost half of them, half of them had died but what was this young chit telling her how to do things when she'd had this many and raised this many. You-know I always had ten and raised five or had twelve and raised six or-something."

And, ah, there wasn't, ah- there didn't seem to be a lot of- a lot of chitter about that- that sort of thing.

E-- ah chitting. You take them out about a month before you're going to plant them, and you put them in bright light, not sunlight, and you let them- i-- i-- if they were in- in dark, they would be a foot high, and because they're in bright light, all they're doing- they're sprouting but staying very squat, very small. And when you plant them outside, like the first of June I'll plant them outside, and they will grow immediately because they're- all the want is that moisture in the ground and it'll grow.

Speaker: But, uh, they used to have these parties, you-know, with friends. And uh, that was the way most weddings were conducted, I-think. Interviewer: Did they have chivarees? You-know where- Speaker: No. No, there was n-- I know what you mean, but th-- I never heard- heard of anybody having it. They did that in the early days, though, really. And many people were hurt, you-know, by it, too. Interviewer: How? Speaker: Oh, I-mean the not expecting, you-know, they- but we never had any at ours. Thank the Lord.

Interviewer: They never had what they call a chivaree? Speaker: Yes! B-- but all that's- was done away as of years ago. It was the last one that we had here was over across the road here. And up to two or three years ago there was an old m-- milk can in the ditch down there they'd use that night for a drum to make noise. That was about the last big one around here. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What- and what did they call that net? Speaker: It was just the chivaree. Interviewer: Chivaree. Speaker: Ah sometimes when a man be geting married the second time or-something-of-that-nature. Interviewer: What- what was the purpose of that? Speaker: Oh I- Interviewer: Just to have fun? Speaker: Couldn't see there was much purpose to it (laughs). Interviewer: (Laughs) But what- I-mean what did you use to do with the milk cart? Speaker: Oh, make all the noise we could. Interviewer: Go up to the house and the- Speaker: Go up to the house and- sometimes the man would come out and give them a bit of money and they'd go into some hotel or a stopping place or-something. Interviewer: What- you mean to- for- for drinks? Speaker: Yeah (laughs). (clears throat) At that time there was hotels every place. You didn't have to s-- go very far to get them. Interviewer: So they called- they called those little groups, ah- Speaker: Yeah. Interviewer: Ah ah what was it? A ch-- Speaker: The- ah it- just was the- was that the chivaree. Interviewer: Chivaree. That ah- wonder why they stopped doing that? I think it's- Speaker: Oh, well I don't know. Interviewer: Out of fashion? Speaker: I- yes. Oh it was kind-of foolish anyway (laughs). Interviewer: Sounds like fun. Speaker: (laughs) Yeah, well it was fun alright, but- sometimes it didn't end up too funny either. Depends on the kind of a man you were celebrating (laughs).

...the young lad ah they bailed out of bed after the parents left, they bailed out of bed and they came on a chivaree with- with the rest of the kids in this neighbourhood. They ah, they came in here but Barnes knew they were coming so he had the door barred and- and ah, the one young um, lad headed...

Interviewer: Now, you mentioned a term that I haven't heard before. You said something like 'shi-vah-ree'? What is that-? Speaker: Chivaree. That's what they called a chivaree when they- they took tar and feathered him and rode him on a rail to Hopetown. That's what they- the term 'chivaree' was.

Interviewer: Now, you mentioned a term that I haven't heard before. You said something like 'shi-vah-ree'? What is that-? Speaker: Chivaree. That's what they called a chivaree when they- they took tar and feathered him and rode him on a rail to Hopetown. That's what they- the term 'chivaree' was.

Yes. Well, if you, if you wanted to buy a house and like us, your first house, young family, living on a pretty ruddy tight budget, you, you had to. You couldn 't afford anything else. So again our street was choc-a-bloc full of young families, young children and um, actually that whole area was.

In one year. Like s-- the high-school was just chucka.

And there was four or five of us because Eric was with his- at- along that time and there was Mick-Matthews and ah, Marissa and Earl-Willard and Jansen and Brent and Jimmy and Filmore was just a bit of a kid, ah Williams and um, there was the Sword-kids, they didn't so much chum with us.

My mom and dad chummed with them but as soon as we were old enough to their kids, I think both sides stopped seeing each other.

Huh, I met her, actually one of my friends was ah- that I chummed around with in Fenelon, ah, was going out with her at the time and I come up here and ah I started going out with her older sister Dana.

Um yeah there wasn't ah um we didn't really chum together when we were young.

That's how Maggie- I-mean she- her and Amanda used to chum together all the time and they u-- another thing they used to do volley-ball but I know that they done- ah ah she- she took a lot of- there was ah- an experienced woman that ah done sewing-

I chummed with basically the same four girls all through high-school and they're- they're still my friends.

The ones I- the ones I chummed with did anyway.