Well, we never really hung out with those people very much. We knew them, but they went to a different school, so you had your little clan here, right?

I-mean I had a lot- I had a lot of friends in- in this area that obviously I met right away through- through school. A lot of them lived right near here. Greg Fulham lived right across the street. Dan Carr lived right up in behind here um, the Mitchell's were just up the street. Pete and Barb. Um, Stan Bread lived up on ah Montgomery-Boulevard towards the end. So they kind-of quickly became my new clan of- of friends.

And um, he had his basic training in Halifax and then he was shipped over to ah, England on a troop-ship and um they were building a tribal-class destroyer, the Iriquois in Glasgow and um, they were the first crew- Canadian crew and it was a Canadian ship but it was built in England. Ah, tribal-class, two of them were built over there and then I-think they built others here, there were three-or-four by the end and they were all named after ah, Native-Indian ah, clans. There was the Iroquois, the Huron and the, um, oh dear, the-- those were the two that were always easy.

Well no because I- I hung around with like- I was like the type of guy in high-school that I just hung around with anybody. Like if I saw someone I'd be like "Yo what's up?" I w-- I wasn't really like- I didn't stick to like one clan or-anything. I was just like- I was like- I was in like the art-room with all the art kids, all those nerdy art kids. I always hung around with like- then I'd go and chill with like my friends- the- I-don't-know, the gamers.

Speaker: You-know, she didn't like that, but my dad didn't adopt th-- my brothers or sisters legally-Interviewer: Mm-hm. peaker: Because he didn't want to take the name away because the heritage is very important to him. Interviewer: Mm-hm. Speaker: The Rockwell name was a good name, so you-know we're called the Rock-- Rockwell-Mastersen clan-Interviewer: (Laughs)Speaker: Basically.

Speaker: But ah, you-know, our family goes back a long ways to Ireland. Interviewer: Mm-hm. Speaker: Northern-Ireland, Belfast area, ah, County-Antram and my aunt Hannelore, ah who's w-- well off, she went back in the sixties and seventies with another great-aunt and ah, they looked at the family tree and they researched Ireland from top to bottom and found our clan and went back back, back, back and then all of a sudden it stopped. There was, you-know, no more headstones. You-know, it was- sev-- s-- seventeen-something, seventeen-forty-something or-like-that.

Interviewer: She's pretty wise-Speaker: Oh yeah, she's- she is. It would just- I-don't-know, it would be neat- it would be neat for my kids to have aunts an uncles. Interviewer: Mm-hm. Interviewer: Yeah. Speaker: Yeah-Interviewer: And cousins. Interviewer: True, cousins and-all-that, yeah- Speaker: Yeah, I hope they all have like lots of kids-Interviewer: Mm. Speaker: So that there's that whole big clan of cousins and yeah (laughs)- Interviewer: (Laughs)Interviewer: Aw, clan. Speaker: Yeah (laughs).

Speaker: Said "You're Irish. That a fact," he said. She said, "Do you really want to find who you are?" He said, "I got nothing to lose. Five days later, she called him up and she said, "I got news for you. You're the Kensington clan from the United-States. Interviewer: Oh. Speaker: "And your mother was a Kensington and she had you as a first born and you've got three sisters and a brother that are all full brother and sister. (Coughs) "Your mother's still living and if you'd have called us a little earlier, you'd have been able to meet your father, he died in the last year."

Speaker: And once the church closed there in King I don't think I've ever been back to one because there it was enjoyable- like, you-know, it was that family. Because of everybody in King-Kirkland sort-of being so close-knit and pretty much a lot of them family. Interviewer: Yeah. Speaker: Yeah so, it's- it's nice I-mean a lot of the original people there are still out there. Um and they would still- like the Peter's-Clan out there, they're amazing.

Speaker: Just a- just a simple reference to give you a picture would be Quebec-Day is like their day where they celebrate Quebec there and my buddies went down there big, big clan that grew there and pretty much cleaned out the street and lit a Quebec flag on fire- these aren't my close friends.

Interviewer: And the Quintons came out from Ireland and settled around Stanleyville, didn't they? Or is that another branch of the family? Speaker: I don't know anything about that clan. Interviewer: Okay. Speaker: I know Bella-Tovan's bunch.

Interviewer: My ah, my family's- are the Goodmans. Speaker: Oh, you're the Goodman clan! I was-Interviewer: Going back to the old census' from- and- one of them has- holy cow. Speaker: And they're mixed up with everybody too.

Interviewer: And there's two Farringtons, you're saying, over off the Scotch line? Speaker: Yes there is, they're two different clans. Interviewer: They're- oh, they are two clans? Speaker: And our clan is gone. Interviewer: Okay. Speaker: Our clan is all gone, now you've got Abbington's clan.

Interviewer: Well, we now- I know I'm a Goodman, way back until about ah fifteen-hundreds. Speaker: Oh, is that right. Oh God. Interviewer: I-don't-know. But (laughs) Speaker: Well our clan, like with Dad, ah, we- we kind of assumed that's how close we've got or as- as close as we got, that we assume who his father and- or grandfather and grandmother were. But we're still slugging away, you-know?

Speaker: Ah Evans's and Tyres were connected. They were also from Aberdeenshire. They- they tended to stick to people of their own- if they weren't related, it was their own breed anyway. Interviewer: Yeah. Well that would make sense for the time and Scotland too because you weren't- one, I guess the- the clans and communities and two because travel you wouldn't be able to be getting other- a lot of other places. You would know the people that you were closest with.

Speaker: And then- yeah, so I took him back home afterwards and we stayed in what had been a blacksmith's shop across the road from his place where they had a huge big tartan carpet on the floor. Lot of places over there do, or did at that time. Interviewer: Was it- is c-- like his clan Tartan? Speaker: Yeah.

And um Protestants, King-William of Orange, and the Highlanders were mostly Catholic. And this- this particular ah clan of- of MacDougalls at Glencoe and McPhees, according to stories, were scribes for the MacDougalls.

Speaker: And um one of- Douglas-McLean, he's dead, was a schoolteacher, he was very active back in the sixties I guess it would've been when Dame-Fiona was the chief of Clan-McLean.

I would say the Matheson clan has lived in this area and- and farmed and worked for probably the last a-hundred-and-fifty-years.

But going to the parents', we visited them regularly. Every Sunday you would visit, um, the whole clan.