Interviewer: Candle-light? Speaker: By ah- no, by coal-oil lanterns.

You had the coal oil lantern or a gas lantern. Did the chores with that and lit the house with the coal oil lamp. We got along fine.

So, Lori would sneak in, she'd watch 'til they were headed to the barn with the old coal oil lantern and then she'd sneak in and do the- help us with the dishes and then she'd say, "Don't tell your mother. Don't tell your mother."

But on the- on the- in the evenings, we would certainly go- the older ones would go to the barn and- and ah, help feed ah livestock and- and um, I can remember my dad milking the cows before we got hydro so there was a wire strung from one end of the barn to the other and he had a- just a coal-oil lantern that he would slide it on the wire behind the cows and- and then ah you-know, when he was milking or- and that must have been- I-mean our vet always s-- even after we got the electricity, our vet always said it was one of the darkest barns he ever come into.

N-- Dad- the only thing Dad ever talked about reading a book- he says you always had to read it with a coal-oil lantern, he said, "That's probably why-

Speaker: Ah then the neighbours all- all hooked up to the hydro here and Brent-Bernard and Alex-Roman's and that- there wasn't hydro in this area 'til I was about that age. Everybody hadn't- yeah we worked with the coal oil lamp. Interviewer: Wow. Speaker: And in the barn you had a lantern. It's a wonder everybody didn't burn their barn down. But you had a coal oil lantern. That's how you would see- gave you chores at night in the dark.

Yeah, yeah. You had to take a coal-oil lantern out or- or-something-like-that and hang it up high because it wouldn't safe to set down on the floor in case something kicked it and- Because farms have been- barns have been burned that way, and you lose all your cattle, too.

Interviewer: So you didn't have electricity so I-guess you'd have to work with just ah kerosene? Speaker: Coal o-- coal oil lanterns we took to the barn yeah.

Interviewer: Did you go and call them? Speaker: Oh, well sometimes they'd come and sometimes they wouldn't. Interviewer: How did you call them? Speaker: Ah, coboss, coboss, coboss.

You-know, just such a little piece around. But anyway, so I had a commode that Verna and her family had given me one Christmas and ah, they said, "Oh it was awful to give you for Christmas." But it couldn't have been a better gift because I've used it so much since, you-know?

Speaker: And we waited and we waited and we waited and we waited. The lady was indisposed. And we said, "Well, where is she." "Well, she's on the commode." Interviewer: The commode? Speaker: Yeah. So I said to Sara- I said, "Sara, we been here an hour. Let's see if we can get a witness when she's on the commode." (Laughs) We said, "Yup," (laughs) so I said to Sar-- "We (inc) court we can (inc) we got it signed on the commode (laughs)." While she's sitting on the commode (laughs).

the commode (laughs)." While she's sitting on the commode (laughs). <4> And you actually did? <

And, um then we use the ah a conibear which is ah a- a smaller trap. Basically we've got different sizes and we're…

For- different species have different traps. And ah all humane traps. It's a conibear that catches them by the head- body, it's a body grip and trap.

And like when I'm tired, and I'm in bed and I'm conking out, and I'm being asked stupid questions, I lose it.

All of them. And um, and I always- when I w-- went on to a- a committee ah, I always had something in mind. And ah, and my beef is- my big beefs in the retail business was, if you came in and bought an iron from us and um, and ah, you had it for three months or four months and ah it conked out, um we had to send it out for repairs. And I always maintained that we should have a one-year replacement- replacement policy.

But we loved it. We'd eat and literally just conk out, you-know, and sleep like a baby, you-know, life was good.

I think it was within a year, ah, when they landed here, with what they called consumption in those days. They call it T-B now

No. It was all done with hydro. And I had a gas stove. I had a big cook stove and then I had a gas stove, as well. That was when they made natural gas…

A big barrel behind our cook-stove. Every night we had to fill that up (laughs).