Interviewer: Oh. What happened that time that he bucked you? Speaker: Oh, I'm not sure, something just spooked him though, and I just fell off. Interviewer: Did you go flying? Speaker: No, I didn't go flying, like he- he's too old to buck that vigorously.

Speaker: But on ground you have to roll. ... So that you don't hurt anything, you have to keep going with the speed until you actually slow yourself down. So I rolled, when I got bucked off the horse (laughs) and nothing was hurt, I just had a h-- really huge bruise on my leg but I got back on him and I've seen that a lot with our horseback riding team.

(laughs) and nothing was hurt, I just had a h-- really huge bruise on my leg but I got back on him and I've seen that a lot with our horseback riding team. ... Where people have been- not actually that much, about three people. Three people have been bucked off a horse. And the biggest thing is that you have to get back on the horse. They haven't and I feel really bad for them because I- I got bucked off and I didn't want to get back on him but (laughs). ... Yeah (laughs), he's my horse. ... I love him.

I sat down and I had the reigns in my hands (laughs)- ... Still and I'm like I didn't drop them. The pony kind of just looked at me like what are you doing (laughs)? ... Yeah, pretty wild. But I still get on. I've been bucked off like three times. ... Um, I've been reared up on. I've slipped underneath a horse a couple of months ago. Um, I almost got kicked in the head. This is just like a couple months ago, a couple years ago. This is recent.

Speaker: And ah, I put the saddle on the horse, played around with it a little bit, petted it up got to know it, and ah got out on the road leaving the farm, it kind of didn't want to leave, so it bucked couple of times, then it was perfect. And I had that horse for years and years and years and years.

Speaker: They looked up there and up in the bush there was broken trees, there was bullet holes. They said, "What were you shooting at?" I said, "The moose!" They said, "You must have got buck fever." I put the gun up and just started shooting like this, I di-- I wasn't aiming it. I was just so nervous. Interviewer: (Laughs) Speaker: And you-know after that I said, "Aw, this is nuts."

Interviewer 1: (Laughs) He took the jitters. Speaker: He took buck fever and it was close too (coughs). Interviewer 2: Now what's that, buck fever? Interviewer 1: Well he just got so jittery, he couldn't shoot (laughs). Speaker: (Laughs)

Speaker: The next morning I got a bottle of Smarties and fixed them up, took them up and give them to him, they were buck fever. Interviewer: (Laughs)

But, um, that was another thing he mentioned. And he also mentioned this- probably nobody even knows what it is, but a buckrake. And that was how they brought in the hay. And Patrick said it- Uncle-Sam and dad built the buckrake and it was, um, old truck with kind of tyings out behind it. And then you- well, Sandy used to drive it a lot.

Interviewer: I see so it was pretty well up to the person themselves to keep the thing warm? Speaker: Yeah, they supplied their own robes and so on. Buffalo hides and so on, and they also supplied their own waterproofing such as sheets of rubber and the like to shed water.

Interviewer: Oh, I see, mm-hm. Um, did- say you were out in a cutter, what you use to put over you, to keep warm? Speaker: Oh, well, it'd be a buffalo robe. Interviewer: Mm-hm. Speaker: Some people had buffalo ro-- they'd sit on them, they'd put one on the back of the cutter, on the seat, and sit on it, and then they'd have another over their knees. That was- that would be more or less for style.

Interviewer: You said you had a- a buggy, and, ah, your father had a buggy, to- Speaker: Oh yes. Interviewer: Yeah? What did you use in wintertime? Speaker: A cutter. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What was it like? Speaker: There's a big round- oh, fancy made, it'd stand about that high though, and the runners come to around like this, and way back, and this thing come back nearly to your breast, see? You didn't need a buffalo on or nothing in front of you to keep the snow off, nor a- Interviewer: Didn't need a what? Speaker: You didn't need a buffalo on or nothing, unless for heat, to keep the snow on or- and the rain off. The f-- made all with the wood, and the runners can ride back, oh, just almost in your face.

Interviewer: In a um- in a cutter, how did you keep warm? Speaker: Oh, we had buffalo robes, we had a pair. And ah, them heavy blankets, you-know?

Interviewer: Retains the heat, apparently, for quite a long time. Yes. Ah, where would you get the buffalo robes? Speaker: We bought them at a sale, but I think originally they came from the West, eh? At that time, it's way back, and ah, these people had been farming, and they had two buffalo robes, one was smaller than the other, the other had a- an addition, like- as if the- the neck of it had been- had been, um, used too, it was a big loop, on one of them. Made it much bigger. And the hair was much longer, like on it. Interviewer: Would they be lined, or have a backing? Speaker: Yes, they were lined with some woollen material. I think one of them had just like grey- ah, grey wool, um, well, material, I mean, and then the other one was more fancier somehow. But it- both of them were lined with woollen material.

Speaker: 'Cause I remember going to church with a horse and cutter and the buffalo were all going to- heated brick at our feet.

my dad would hitch up the horse and um, we'd have ah, what they call buffalo-robe.

Speaker 1: And my grandfather lived not too far from the school so I'd leave, ah, the- the horse and sleigh there and he'd look after it during the day and feed it and- and get it all ready for me when I walked back to- to his house (clears throat) and then I'd drive the horse and- and, ah- and, ah, sleigh with- w-- of course with my sister as well back home again. So, ah, some days were pretty cold where we'd- we'd, ah, tuck in underneath the, ah- we called it a buffalo, ah, blanket in those days 'cause it was made out of, ah- ah, I guess it was made out of hide with- Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure what kind of hide it was. I'm not sure- Speaker 1: Hair. I'm not sure what kind of hide it was. Speaker 2: I don't think it was buffalo hide, it probably was some other hide- Speaker 1: They called it buffalo hide but it was, ah- it was definitely a heavy type of, ah, hide blanket that you'd hide underneath and, ah- and- and stay warm. And so that was quite interesting.

And my dad he used to take the horses and sleigh then and he had a big buffalo robe and we'd ah- he'd have that laid over a foot of straw or so on the- on the sleigh, so we'd get under the buffalo robe and it was a nice ride to school, it was nice and warm you-know?

Oh no, we were still friends there. We were just always like- bug with him and stuff.

Speaker: Yeah it 's always open, see all the dogs and-everything in there all the time, used to lock it, couldn't get in. Interviewer: It 's interesting Speaker: Big lock on the bugger, and "No, you 're not allowed in."