Well anyways, we got the goat home ... Well my mother says, "You 're not keeping it here." ... So across the street, my uncle used to be a teamster also, but he had moved to- to a farm in Whitby, but he- his barn was still there, so we take him across the street to put in my Uncle-Billy's barn.

And he had his first job in Dawson-City, in that area working as a, oh what was it, I must remember now, ah, assis-- assistant- a team- assistant to a teamster, I think that was it, assistant to a teamster.

He was assistant to a teamster initially and then he got him an old prospector. He said, "any job I could get" you-know. ... Imagine, now if he'd stayed with the assistant to the teamster job, he mightn't have seen that twenty-thousand-dollars.

Speaker: See, my dad wanted to be a farmer too, but he never- like all he worked was that demonstration farm for all his life. He was head teamster there Interviewer: A team? Speaker: A teamster. He looked after the horses.

... and when you're skidding, there's two horses- there's a whipple-tree here- here a double tree, a swivel hook and the swivel hook- hooks into that. And when you're the teamster, you got to pick that leg of the tong up and swing it.

The only trouble is your teamster had no place to walk. He couldn't walk in with the log and the horse with no room ...

I bought a team of horses off Eileen-Barkes in Charlotte-Lake for three-thousand dollars. And I met a lad in Arnprior that wanted them awful damn bad. ... he was an awful poor teamster. But anyways, I had to show him how to drive and they planned out perfect for him.

Speaker: That- Nigel was well dressed and he was tough, you-know? ... Good teamster though. G-- oh yeah. We raised him.

Speaker: ...the people that wore the rock t-shirts and had their long hair and- what used to be the hippies in the se-- ah late sixties, early seventies became the "techers" up here but they're "rockers" down south. So it was the guys that used to bang their heads to listen and the- like the eighties rock-bands. Interviewer: Okay. Speaker: They were rockers down south. We call them techers up here.

Speaker: Not say it, but thinking, "Okay, how should I know you" and they'll say, "Oh, no, you would never talk to me 'cause- 'cause like you were one of the academics and I was a techy- Interviewer: Mm. Speaker: Or techer or an O-niner, we used to call them and which is totally out there because you think of it like you-know, the people from technology are to this day making a lot more money than I am...

Speaker 1: Because they have issues with everything. And they can't live by the rules, or guidelines that we have lived by. And they think that they're better than us. Speaker 2: They're the Palazzo age that go to Siblings to buy their clothes. Speaker 1: The age where the teeny-boppers go to Silver City or Colossus and they're twelve-years- old, and they come dressed up like these shooters, who look like they're going clubbing and their parents drop them off. And they say, "Bye Mom. Be back in an hour. Yo what's-up?"

Speaker 1: No, you kind-of did cause trouble in grade eight. Speaker 2: Well yeah, but that- Speaker 1: That was during your teenybopper stage. Speaker 2: Hey, don't- don't use my term against me. I was just trying to fit in with a bad crowd.

Speaker: I know, I 'll look young. Yeah. Mm but yeah, that bugs me. These little teenyboppers. Interviewer: Were you once a teenybopper? Speaker: No, I was never a teenybopper. Interviewer: I was never! Speaker: I was never. What? Interviewer: Party! Speaker: No, I was never a teenybopper no. Interviewer: So you said you were a party-animal.

Yes these like little teenybopper thirteen year olds. They like ah they like dress like they 're like sexteen. They dress like they 're like sixteen and they wear these little tops and they go to Yorkdale and they try to pick up older guys and it 's like "Nooo. No Nobody." Yeah, that really bugs me. That bugs me a lot. And they like they pretend they like they 're all that but they 're not. News flash.

It was- oh no it was just a social phenomena at the time. And we 'd hike up our skirts we 'd roll them up. Now I- I just have visions of all these you-know teenyboppers with lumps around their middle from their skirts rolled- but it didn 't feel like it then.

Speaker: We need more. There's no ladies clothing store here hardly. There's teeny-boppers stores, jeans and-stuff. Interviewer: Mm. Speaker: There's no kids clothing. Where am I going to buy my kid something, Giant-Tiger?

So I think that's why my mom and dad are so healthy. Plus they're teetotallers. (laughs) Well, my dad gets a little bit on the side now and then but, ah, you…

And then there was some of them that- my parents were teetotallers so they didn't go to the Perth hotel or any place like that

So they had to allow us two- i-- it was a long row of house ah- but they call them tenements at that time.

So we had to- we- they ga-- allowed us two tenements. Because there were seven children.