Not all the same time. Like one year we camped East and one we went West, yeah. Um (inc) a girlfriend and I, and we had a Pinto- she had a Pinto. And we tented. And we have tented down to Yellowstone- Park and we 've tented from- over to far as we can go West, and we 've tented to Prince- Edward-Island.

During the summer? Went camping all the time. Family camping. We had a- we went- we tented. We had to use tents for a while and that was in Deer-River

Now, like it's a long time since the Bell come in.

By that time, your grandfather was into mutual funds and we did very well for a while thank-you and then the bottom fell out of the mutual-fund, and the bottom basically fell out of our world too, to a great extent financially. We ended up selling the cottage. And we moved into an apartment.

I guess his- he's got a dry sense of humour. Ah Uncle-Bambi, well he had his own friends and he didn't- wasn't a drinker and unfortunately, my younger brother Bernardo, he wanted to be like me and he got into more trouble and girlfriend troubles and- and he had- few times there we had to go pick him out of the clink there drunk.

So I was on the hind- hind tit for a long time.

Interviewer: Ah I've heard some people ah- have you ever gotten the itch? Speaker: The edge? Interviewer: The itch? Speaker: Oh the itch, ah probably. Interviewer: Yeah? Speaker: I probably have- yeah most definitely as a child. I don't sleep- I don't ah- I-don't-know why I said sleep- I don't- I don't swim in Lake-Nippissing, so well- no, I don't like how warm the water is (laughs). It- and I know it's just because it's shallow but it's like I just don't like the thought of like the sewage plant just being like just (makes sound) down there, not too far.

Ah, I really liked it. Other than Lake-Nippising kinda sucks because of the itch that it gets and the shadfly season, so…

It's got to be somewhat, because they ha-- were like- biologists of some sort were talking about somehow actually taking those snails out of this lake just to stop the itch but they realized that they had to leave them because it's part of the ecosystem or-whatever.

Mm. Oh gosh, the itch is just basically, if you- in Lake-Nippising specifically, if you play around in like the soil- n-- not the soil, the sand and the dirt and-everything um, these little organisms live in there and they'll bite you and they're these little bites that you get all over you and it's basically like getting um like chicken-pox or um, anything-like-that.

...so you just don't bother going swimming for like two weeks during shadfly-season and then the itch comes- you get like one week grace period and then the itch comes.

And of course the more you scratched it- the worse it got. So if you put the calamine lotion on it would take the itch away so you wouldn't scratch it. And leave it alone. But I- my- I don't even think my kids, my kids ever got it. I don't think Joe and Curtis ever got it.

Um maybe after I get back from New-York I'll have the itch to travel more but for right now just going to New-York. And I wo-- I paid for the trip by working over-time hours at the hospital so we've have a lot of computer switch-overs in the last couple of weeks and a lot of changes with the new hospital being built.

No, no I don't think so- no, but then on the other hand you- you-know you always manage to get the itch over here too, but that's- that- I mean that's curable, all you got to do is rub yourself down really well with a towel, which you can probably do with these fleas too. Ah but I know the M-N-R out there, they're taking um nets and they're dropping nets down and bringing them back up again to see how many of these little creatures that they can bring in.

And you always got the itch, 'cause- same things goes on now but nobody seemed to- we just kind-of ignored it but- back in those days.

Speaker: Yeah, and he was born in there as well. And his mother's parents were born, but- out this way some place, what they call Scotch-line. Interviewer: Scotch-like. Speaker: Mm-hm.

Speaker 2: One- there your group at Christie-Lake. One house to another. Speaker: And one at Dewitt's, one at Glen-Tay. Interviewer: Yeah. Speaker: I think there was one at Brook, wasn't there? Speaker 2: Probably. Speaker: I'm not sure about the Scotch-Line. Interviewer: Yeah it was something ah- just ah- Speaker: B-- Interviewer: As an aside it was something C-B-C- Speaker: Yeah. Interviewer: Um and the- and that adult education group, Canadian-Association-for-Adult-Educ--

Interviewer: And on your mom's side? Where- where were they from? Speaker: They were- they were Wallaces. Interviewer: As of the Wallaces who were in Perth and- Speaker 2: Ah- Interviewer: Had a cottage on Pike-Lake, or- another Wallace? Speaker: No, they were from- they lived on the Scotch-Line here.

Speaker: But I wanted to tell you something about- about El-- Ellwood, too, now, E-- Ellwood had a- had a pretty good eyesight. And when you were up on the- u-- upper end of that Scotch-Line, there was, my two cousins, my laws, and Jill, and there was Glenda-Mason, and there was Maud-Potter, it was- And Ellwood, his eyes got bigger and bigger all- all at once ...

... he said, "all them girls at the j-- they'd all skinny-dipped there, and they'd dive off that," and you-know-what, Ellwood-Dade never missed a trick. There, he said, "That's the nicest thing in the Scotch-Line." (all laugh)