They had flowers in there right down to the lake that was all and then the Hopper-Mine- the shaft. The shaft comes down and it works on a- on- on like a- like a buggy- a carriage. It's on a cable. So they- they- they lower you down on a cable instead of you hoist with the wheels on it- with the cage, you come down on a ramp.

Speaker: They'd gone down- they used to have twenty-eight cows round about the time I was born. And ah, that was a lot of cows. And a lot of milk. Interviewer: Yeah. Mm-hm. Speaker: And ah, that's how they made their money, my mother and father was ah- the milk. And my mother used to go to town every Saturday with us in the horse and buggy.

Yeah, oh we used to pick strawberries. Raspberries too. Yep. Yeah I remember my mother taking a horse and buggy and Bo and I going out over to twenty-eight-highway to White-Edge-Corners. And there was a- bushes along the road.

Speaker: And we took her on a picnic back to the creek. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Speaker: With the horse and buggy. And d-- d-- during the day. That was one day that we had away- off from cooking. Or hoeing rather.

Oh that's- yeah, well that was- that was almost before my time. It's back- way back and it's- it was ah a parade of- the- where they had a local brass band I-guess and- and it would be buggies or-whatever, that was your float should be I-guess. I never saw one. Ah, when I got ah involved it was the legion were doing ah a parade.

Yeah, Jeff-Burns over here is the dairy man. He- he ah served this town with a hired man on a buggy. And ah- a horse and buggy with a- with a- um milk wagon. And ah, he'd- they served- served ah milk to anybody that wanted milk. And they were at the same church as us.

But anyway, he had a good driving horse and a nice buggy and he stopped m-- to take a couple of them McCout girls, pick them up and take them home that night and the dad was one- get a hold of the buggy and- and two or three of them get a hold of the back of the buggy and ah was holding it there.

Well I'll tell you- you- y-- if you're going anywhere then you had to- could use a horse and buggy and you had a pretty good driving horse. You always kept a good driving horse, something that would move.

And Stanford just pulled out the whip and he just struck the horse one and it just went l-- like that and th-- the- the buggy stayed there and...

Speaker: That was his mode of transportation. Interviewer: Holstein-steer? Speaker: W-- (inc) in a buggy.

Yes and he ran it good too. He wouldn't- he wou-- his- ah brought him up here like (inc) to come (inc) come up here at night with his steer in the- in the buggy. He was- he was good.

Well yeah. When he got older you-know I used- he wasn't able to harness the horse to go to town, so I used to go over and harness the horse for him and- and take him- get on the buggy and-Interviewer: Yeah. Speaker: Pick him up. And he'd let me drive right to there.

Well, it was a parade and I don't know what time of year it took place but everybody decorated their horses. It was sort-of a pre-automobile thing, I think they ended it with the- with the twenties, and you decorated your wagons and your buggies and everybody went out and drove and it was called ah- ah Calathompian parade.

So I would, ah, get books and then it got- what do you do with them? So I put them in a buggy- we had one old buggy that came from Merrickville, I guess, in the store and just put "free" on them. And then the buggy get kind of overdone so then we get the shelf out front and that's still going. It's amazing.

Ah, and I think it was all done by horse and buggy type-thing, like, yeah, yeah. I believe that was how it was done.

...and of course he wanted to visit so- but dad had to get back on the train so he sat there on that feet a-- in the buggy and went all up, up to the village of Pakenham chatting a mile a minute

And my- I'm only about a mile-and-a-half from Pakenham. So Dad hopped on a train, then the very next morning came down to Pakenham and Sid-Arnolds, his- his friend met him with the horse-and-buggy at the- a-- and then at the at the station, he took him out to the farm and that- it was a no-go. Just didn't click, at all.

She said, "I really think, and when we think about it, the one thing to do was get into a farm that's close enough that they can walk to high-school or you-know so- or- or drive to high-school on a horse-and-buggy but that was it. So as soon as he went out the door with his- they'll bring him and "Yes, we'll tell." And they got on the phone.

He delivered it with the horse and cutter, or the horse and buggy.

Speaker: Well in the olde-- it was the old days, very few people had cars. Interviewer: Yeah. Speaker: So if people wanted to go some place, they walked or drove a buggy.