Worked in mines over in the States before that and all over- his mother went to the States and so he was over there for a while I-guess. He wasn't very young when they got married so-

Dad was an under- underground worker at the mine (inc). ... In Cobalt, and Timmins and everywhere. Even in the States before we (inc) (laughs) existed.

Yeah and he did everything over there pretty well. If anything, he mixed it- mixed the stuff and (inc) sent Danny to ah the States some place on a fir-- course on this- and doing these kind of things. And he never did it.

He's in Toronto, on Avenue-Road and he's ah keeping well, but I think he's lonely um because his daughter is in Manitoulin-Island. He's got two sons down in the States and he hasn't anybody else you-know? So I think he's kind of lonely there.

People just abandoned- but price of gold was really low. I d-- I don't know what it was and ah- ah, it's a different story. But you- you got to realize that in- in the States in some areas of k-- you-know, Canada they're like- there- there was a huge recession-

Um (sighs) the- the housing market- this is my understanding, when the housing market crashed in the States like take ah- Grants up here out in Englehart, you must've went by it, it's actually Georgia-Pacific now.

Another chap too that's ah one of the younger fellas, he didn't go or get overseas but he was an American and- and ah ah when the Korean-War started, he didn't go back to the States. When the Korean-War started, he had no service in the American army so he was drafted. And he was killed in Korea.

Ah she works at Three-H-Furniture- ... And she's ah customer-service. ... So she gets people, she gets to talk to people from in the States 'cause one of the main customers are the United-States and so she talks to a whole bunch of people from there and she gets a couple people from Canada and she gets all the people who complain.

Like, he worked for this company that installed elevators and- and-stuff. And ah- and so they- they had a falling out and- and so he went back to s-- to the States- to Cleveland and ah mother Ethan moved up here where she looked after ah- her ah grandma McCoy and- and grandpa.

Speaker: Ah no, no. Ah he owns a big place down in ah- in- Interviewer: Ottawa. Speaker: No no, in the States. Interviewer: Oh okay.

Ah um we had gone out earlier in high-school and then um the summer that I was going off to university, we got back together and he- he went to school in the States on a hockey scholarship.

Speaker: So we plan two events in the community, the Festival's committee. One is the carnival and then the other is homecoming weekend, July-first weekend. Interviewer: And what happens then? Speaker: Um so we- we're starting off- we have a comedian, a local girl that's a comedian that lives in the States. She's starting ah Wednesday night. Then we have a- oh, Tuesday night we have a kid's character thing like Dora.

They have- they're the ones that has the- well it used to be Grants, um, it's like a forest place, forest, forestry I-guess. ... But now it's some company from the States has bought it so yeah that's pretty much all there is in Englehart.

Like it's not fun shoveling know all the time, you-know, but I- I can't see myself living in the States where the have tornadoes and devastations like they do, so I'm thinking living in the North is- hey, we don't get what they get.

Interviewer: Wow, Yellow-Stone. Speaker: Yup. Interviewer: Where's about is that (laughs)? Speaker: That's in the States in the-

You-know, as an example, um, maybe you don't remember them. Do you remember the old um billboards that used to be in the States, and I- Burma-Shave or-something where they'd have part of the- part of the advertisement here and then another half part way down the road and another one part way down the road.

Last year we went down into the States for our honeymoon-

Interviewer: Do you think it's becoming more and more similar to each other because of the media or do you think it's diverging because of the media? Speaker: I'd have to say it's converging. Because a lot of our media in Canada is coming from the States, and if you think of what the audience would be it's- say if American media is getting to Canadians then that's getting to their entire population and our entire population at the same time and we're all watching the same shows.

Speaker: Yeah. We were overseas a lot. And we were down the sta-- ah, pretty well around Canada and the States and we were enough- Interviewer: So why do you love- why do you love here? Speaker: It's peaceful. We have to look after our cat too (laughs).

So, you go finishing when you want, you can go hunting. The only thing that's ah, sucks about hunting is ah, all the rules 'cause people from down south and the States ruin it for us. People from down south.