So there's teams- well, there's teams from like Toronto and Ottawa, so I think there were scouts there from all schools and the States. They probably just liked one of the games I played in.

'Cause a lot of the time right now, a lot of the students don't even get their education here for med school. A lot of them go to say McGill or-things-like-that, Quebec or even go to the States so it's going to be more of an incentive program. I think right now the signing bonus here- to stay here is- all doctors get a signing bonus incentive. Thing is here, only here is thirty-thousand-dollars.

Well, good thing, it's not the States, 'cause then there wouldn't be no taxes on it 'cause rich people don't get taxed in the States.

Well I don't know what the laws are like in the States, but here I can't take any money um, for anything that goes on on my property without it affecting the amount of risk that my insurance company takes and-

Tom and I have travelled a good bit. We've been, you-know, out to the West-Coast and- and different places. We've been down through the States, San-Fransisco, he has a sister living in Boston, down-

Interviewer: Have either of you been outside of Ontario? Speaker: Mm-hm. Interviewer: And where would it be? Speaker: Well we've been to Sweden. Been to Sweden a couple of times and we've done quite a few holidays. We've been to the States a number of times and ah been to the Caribbean- in fact we just came back from a- a cruise- what, about a week ago- a month ago-

Um, I would probably like to travel like, a bit more around the States, maybe like South-America, just to see like, maybe like Rio, stuff-like-that. Maybe Australia, probably definitely Ja-- like Japan and China, because I've heard a lot about that, and it's kind of futuristic there, and that's really it, and Europe of course.

But my- when my brother did the gen-- genealogy, the Drake name was linked to ah, France. And then Belgium. And then some stopped in England, and then over into the States, and then up into Canada. And ah, the Drake name was also spelt different. It was D-R-A-Y-K-E.

Ah, and so some of his relatives- brothers. They went back to the States. Um, and in those days communication isn't like now. Ah, people don't see each other for ten, twenty years.

... and people will drive around purposely- they- they get their jollies out of just seeing these old theatres and I- I met a guy like that. He came up here to Kirkland-Lake for a business meeting one time. This guy was from the States, um, Minneapolis and I had a meeting with him and I'm driving him through town and he says, "Stop! Stop! Stop!" and I say, "What?" He says, "Stop! I got to get out!" and he pulls this camera out of his briefcase and he takes like a hundred shots ...

Interviewer: What about- were you close with your grandparents? Speaker: Quite close. Yes my grandparents from here. My grandparents from the States-

Interviewer: Um, and have you been elsewhere outside of North-America? Maybe to Europe? Speaker: Hm, no, just the Dominican and the States, I've been down to the States, hm F-- F-- Florida, and Tennessee.

Speaker: ... to be able to be a performer I think that they're a part of a guild or a union. Like in- Interviewer: Yeah. Speaker: Actra's a big one here in- in Canada and I think the States too. Interviewer: Mm-hm. Speaker: Um the Writer's-Guild and-different-things-like-that.

He picked it up right away and he started talking about well, you-know, what really happens and- his grandfather- like ah my sister-in-law, her dad um has dual-citizenship. He was raised in the States and moved to Canada, lived in Temagami. Um he's a contractor by trade. He fought in a couple wars. Um I think the Korean and something else, and so he's had experience.

That's his older brother. Willie-Marshall's in The-States. Nelly-Podolsky's in ah, I think he's in The-States. Ted-Lindsay lives in Detroit. He's one of the more famous guys. Daren-Puppa- he was playing for Tampa-Bay and Buffalo. Ah, Bobby-Murdoch lives in Calgary.

Oh yeah. There's Wayne-Gretzy. He's not ours but ah- Billy-Harris. But ah- ah, Danny-Daoust from V-town. Played for ah, Toronto for eight years. Donny-Blackburn's in The-States. Ralphie-Backstrom i-- Colorado, really nice fellow. And Wayne-Connelly is from ah, Rouyn-Noranda but Wayne has lived in Kirkland-Lake for quite some time, he's- good friend and neighbour. I play golf with s-- Wayne every day.

But he wasn't going to get any better. He was only going to get worse. So anyway they- but everybody said "This surgeon, you're lucky to have him 'cause he even goes down to the States and does different surgery down there." Very popular, very very good at this job. So that's what- that's what he- Victor did.

James-Dawson was my boss and I told him one day I was going to retire and they- he said "Well w-- we got to send you down to the States for a course, down in Schenectady."

So we were getting trained a little bit there and the rumours going through the camp where the going to leave, going to be shipped down to the States right away. And just- about that time that's when the Americans dropped those, a couple of big atomic bombs on them right in Japan and that put it in to the board in Japan too.

Americans, you could go to the States and you pull in down there and they'd ask you 'cause they seen your license plate whereabouts you- where from Ontario. They'd want to know if you knew Sam-Parsons eh?