Mm-hm, so there was all ages just sliding all winter long in the gully.

That's where you went for recess, lunch and afternoon recess was the gully and go sliding.

And, ah- in some cases, ah, th-- because the- the north- the terrain is up and down and all over, they would build a bridge in order to carry the- the wooden pipe o-- over maybe a gully or-something. And ah, occasionally- like, some of the mines had started to close down. Some mines were closed down, even when I was a kid.

Ah, well like there's about four, five of us that were all like there at the time, and I remember like trash-and-treasure. We'd go around and like collect stuff every year and we'd have like this little kind of place in the- like there's a little gully by our house and we collected it there (laughs).

Speaker: And we look and we can hear like these little claws like on the road and we like look over and there's this bear standing there on the road and were like in the middle of our lot, so we just kind of like crept into the corner of like- our two houses are really close, so we crept into the corner of his and it's still looking at us and we just jumped the fence, like (laughs)- Interviewer: You did? Speaker: Yeah we were sitting on the fence and we called our parents and yeah. And then my dad came out and he was just watching it for a bit and all the neighbours were just watching it and then it just ran back into the gully.

Speaker: Hide-and-Seek, we used to have massive Hide-and-Seek games- Interviewer: Really? Speaker: 'Cause we got a little gully by our house and we'd invite like fifteen, twenty people over and play Hide-and-Seek...

Speaker: Well we played ball and then when ah- we used to just (inc) made up our own games. Interviewer: Mm-hm. Speaker: (inc) There used to be a little gully there.

Speaker: Well Bl-- Blakeney-School, you-know where ah, you know where Herb-McFern lives? Interviewer: Ah, yes. Speaker: Well the gully, there's a brick building there?

And we used to have um, down on Victoria-Street, there was ah a d-- like a gully, you go it's on- on- on the left hand side and you could go down there with a forest where the river was.

Speaker: And the coach (clears throat) is running the guys and they're doing all their stuff. And ah they hear the sirens and he looks over shoulder and here comes this guy gumbooting it. Interviewer: (Gasps) Speaker: In his handcuffs up through the field (laughs).

And so ah we helped her and then- then later on they- they ah made it sixteen. ... My youngest sister, she- she went. She was older when (inc) went ah, to- to ah high-school. ... So we kind-of got gypped there. ... (Laughs) Well things were different in those days, eh?

And I- I said "I'll give you twelve-five." Wouldn't go for it. I finally got him down to fourteen. Fourteen cash. 'Til the day he died, he never forgot that. ... I gypped him down a thousand dollars.

... but the amount of water was a four-foot head coming through a- you-know, a seven-inch by a fifteen-inch hole; it was going a lot quicker with a four-foot head than a- than a two-inch head. So therefore, ah, I think it was getting a bit gypped, you-know?

Once again, that 's an example of something I just self-taught myself, hacked around, trial-and-error and now can confidently build web-sites but um, if you get, if you go to the web-site it 's just, it 's just not content of, of text and basic images.

ou-know I just kind- of do it, just hack around or just keep busy and I certainly get my, my work out that way. And as you know I worked in the pirate-show with your, with your uncle-Al which was another great experience.

Well the one that stands out would be G-I-Joe. G-I-Joe- hacking around with G-I-Joe and um, we would wow- okay it would be a group of us, think there was TL, DH- about four of us, and we would always make these vehicles out of cardboard for G-I-Joe and turn these cardboard boxes into little mobile-homes for them and- you-know, explore whatever given country-side there was.

You-know you can just- you tend to be able to get away with things um, when you 're- and you didn 't- yeah when you 're Yogi-Bear and so yeah you just hack around with the, the crowds that come through and there 's always a kid that comes up to you and wants to make trouble.

...they didn 't go into journalism because they wanted to be broadcast reporters, they went into it because they wanted to write print, and they wanted to show up at their desks looking haggard and- and, you- know, the way most- most journalists do! You-know, and they have to turn into these pretty faces that- that T-V demands...

Except this bracelet because it was- it was a major undertaking. I- I- I haggled for long time before I got it at the price I felt I could afford (laughs). And so I- I just had it up my sleeve and so- anyway, so I come to the customs and ah, the man says ah, "Did you buy anything?"

Like you-know? And I ended up ah, I came up w-- we- we haggled back and forth a bit and bartered whatever and ended up I-think he- he knocked off about four-hundred dollars. So it was still eight-hundred dollars for the car by the time I paid the bill and I ended up putting the car for sale.